Michael Moore's Latest Target: Your HMO

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MTK
05-21-2007, 08:07 PM
Want to learn fact? Read.
Don't let someone like this "teach" you about issues.
If you need this guy to tell you your opinion or what to think or what is "right"...you need serious help.

Problem is folks listen to this jerk and take it as truth because he has a big budget.

That's the problem, most people don't seek out the facts in regard to issues like this. I'm not saying people should take his word as fact, but if it helps make someone curious and seek out more information then mission accomplished.

I don't see any difference between what he does and the lies that are fed to us by our own government. In the end both sides are on the far extreme side of things.

Sammy Baugh Fan
05-21-2007, 08:12 PM
That's the problem, most people don't seek out the facts in regard to issues like this. I'm not saying people should take his word as fact, but if it helps make someone curious and seek out more information then mission accomplished.

I don't see any difference between what he does and the lies that are fed to us by our own government. In the end both sides are on the far extreme side of things.

So I wouldn't go see a Government movie about what I am looking for as facts.
His movies are one sided propoganda to gain HIM cash only.

Watch them as such
peace

dmek25
05-21-2007, 08:17 PM
its up to the people to do something. the way that happens is thru the vote. the people have given us a democratic majority for the first time since 1992. Michael Moore's job is not to fix what is broken, its just him shedding light on our great nations biggest problems. his movies are the real issues, not Iraq and illegal aliens

MTK
05-21-2007, 08:23 PM
His movies are one sided propoganda to gain HIM cash only.


If that was the case I doubt he'd give 60% to charity but whatever. Believe what you will.

SmootSmack
05-21-2007, 08:26 PM
Keep in mind the 60% that was given to charity was part of a negotiating tactic that Disney "forced" upon Miramax when they were arguing over distribution rights to the movie, to keep Miramax and Moore from really cashing in.

It wasn't some benevolent gesture by Moore

But you're right Matty, the idea is to use Moore's films to learn more about the issue at hand. Maybe you come out of it, after thoroughly researching through mediums other than Moore, that Moore is completely off-base in his assestment. But to Moore's credit, he at least gets you thinking

Sammy Baugh Fan
05-21-2007, 08:29 PM
40% of multi millions is still money for lies bro and cashing in on the weak, poor and dying. Does that make it right he gives away 60% on 1/2 truths and "other" peoples pain and suffering?

Go make a movie on Darfur and give 60% away then feel good about yourself.

Go make a movie about rape victims and give 60% away.

Dewd, you could make a 60 minute movie pointing fingers with 1/2 facts and give 60% away. Does it make it worth merit?

peace

I know...3 months

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-21-2007, 08:30 PM
I see your points Matty re: Moore's films making people learn more about whatever he shines his light on. I, however, am a skeptic and tend to think that Moore's movies only make those people who are already reading the papers to do additional thinking. I believe, perhaps incorrectly, that most people who see his films don't do a lick of additional research and simply take him at his word.

Daseal
05-21-2007, 08:32 PM
I can definitely see how people dislike Moore, and while you shouldn't take everything he says to heart he gets a rise out of some big names which if nothing else is worth it. My main gripe is when people refuse to watch or read anything Michael Moore does then hate on him. At least know what you're hating on instead of blindly following Hannity.

MTK
05-21-2007, 08:36 PM
40% of multi millions is still money for lies bro and cashing in on the weak, poor and dying. Does that make it right he gives away 60% on 1/2 truths and "other" peoples pain and suffering?

Go make a movie on Darfur and give 60% away then feel good about yourself.

Go make a movie about rape victims and give 60% away.

Dewd, you could make a 60 minute movie pointing fingers with 1/2 facts and give 60% away. Does it make it worth merit?

peace

I know...3 months

60% of net profits is a very generous donation. He shouldn't have to apologize for making money... people/companies capitalize at the expense of others every day, let's not make Moore out to be the devil here for making money off a movie he made.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-21-2007, 08:47 PM
My main gripe is when people refuse to watch or read anything Michael Moore does then hate on him. At least know what you're hating on instead of blindly following Hannity.

Agreed. Can I get a waiver, however, for his new film? I've seen three of his films and feel competent to predict what his fourth film will look like. Hyperbole...blah, blah, blah...incoherent statement...blah, blah...funny joke...blah, blah...manipulation of facts...blah, blah...omission of key facts...blah, blah. By now, I think I can safely assume that he is good at making films that have a lot of laughs, but are very short on substance.

As for Moore making money off of his films, it's his right and I don't think he should be knocked for it. I think he can be knocked for basically churning out crappy, but funny, films that raise some interesting issues but make few noteworthy points. He can also be knocked for being the very thing he rails against (i.e., a person who believes that the ends justify the means, even if the means entail manipulation, lies, and deceit to attain widespread support among the public).

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