King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

If we give him $15-$16M per year with a $40M signing bonus and totally handicap our ability to improve in other areas, then Danny boy should start a website: moreofthesame.com We went one off-season without forking over a huge deal, so I guess he'll just compesate for that by making AH the richest defensive player ever.

This whole thing is annoying to me. Haynesworth has plenty of red flags, we're not in a good cap situation to begin with, there are cheaper alternatives available (shit, just give Canty 5yrs $40M), and we've had these kind of deals kill us in the past. The whole thing gives me a really bad feeling.

All of a sudden that seems like a bargain:)

All I can say is it's Dannys team. Whatever happens, what are we going to do about it? You can either accept it, b*tch a little and still cheer on your team, or you can change allegiance. It could be worse. We could all be Browns fans, or worse yet Raiders fans (Al Davis has lost all of his marbles). At any rate, like another poster said, and I'm paraphrasing, I will get on the roller coaster and enjoy the ride.

If we give him $15-$16M per year with a $40M signing bonus and totally handicap our ability to improve in other areas, then Danny boy should start a website: moreofthesame.com We went one off-season without forking over a huge deal, so I guess he'll just compesate for that by making AH the richest defensive player ever.

I don't think he's going to get numbers that high, at least not from us. And I'm certain we're not going to make any move that will totally handicap our ability to improve in other areas. If for no other reason than we're not giving up draft picks to get him.

This whole thing is annoying to me. Haynesworth has plenty of red flags, we're not in a good cap situation to begin with, there are cheaper alternatives available (shit, just give Canty 5yrs $40M), and we've had these kind of deals kill us in the past. The whole thing gives me a really bad feeling.

Cheaper yes, but as impactful? And what if they got both Haynesworth and Canty? And took a linemen at #13?

I don't think he's going to get numbers that high, at least not from us. And I'm certain we're not going to make any move that will totally handicap our ability to improve in other areas. If for no other reason than we're not giving up draft picks to get him.



Cheaper yes, but as impactful? And what if they got both Haynesworth and Canty? And took a linemen at #13?

Can that be done? Because I was under the impression that by signimg AH hindered our ability to aquire a Canty or Hall

It's unlikely, probably means both Hall and Springs are gone but it's not impossible.

I don't think he's going to get numbers that high, at least not from us. And I'm certain we're not going to make any move that will totally handicap our ability to improve in other areas. If for no other reason than we're not giving up draft picks to get him.

I was just going off of Schefter's projections as far as the contract. I suppose I shouldn't have used the phrase "totally handicap" as far as other additions are concerned. I think if we could sign Canty for half of what we would give Haynesworth, it would leave us more room to build at other positions through FA, and also give us more room to sign draft picks, especially if we trade down and end up with more overall picks. You've got to see where I'm coming from as far as Haynesworth's red flags. Age, durability, desire, character... pretty glaring I'd say.


Cheaper yes, but as impactful? And what if they got both Haynesworth and Canty? And took a linemen at #13?

Look, If AH can come here and be as effective as he was for Tennessee last year for multiple seasons for the Redskins, then rock and roll. But we had the 4th overall defense without him. Let's say we signed Canty to bolster the D-line, and his smaller deal allowed us more flexibility in improving the LB/O-line positions; would that not be better overall for the team? I think so.

I don't doubt AH can be a stud when he wants to. Again, I just have a bad feeling.

It's unlikely, probably means both Hall and Springs are gone but it's not impossible.

Thats what makes it such a tough call for me. I could'nt care less about the $$$ its what we give up on the field that concerns me. Is AH worth giving up Hall, Springs and possibly a chance to get another proven playmaker? Man, I just don't like it. I know he would add excitement but by the time rest of the puzzle is put together and the team gels AH will probably be worthless. We just have other needs that can be filled faster without the big hit of AH. IMO

[QUOTE]Fat, lazy and oft-injured. His best years are behind him, and he's had a history of injury.
This is pure speculation.
The Skins need to transform into Tennessee in this equation. They need to be the team that drafts players like Haynesworth, not the one that signs him as a 29 year old free agent.
Ideally, you'd love to have your FO run like a well oiled machine and consistently pluck gems from the draft, but this is reality. Dan and Vinny run the show. Additionally, blue chip players like Haynesworth are extremely rare.Do as the Steelers do. Pay them once, pay them twice, but let some other sucker pay them the third time.
Or do as the Patriots do and pay them once and let some other sucker pay them. However, I think this philosophy has finally caught up to them.

I was just going off of Schefter's projections as far as the contract. I suppose I shouldn't have used the phrase "totally handicap" as far as other additions are concerned. I think if we could sign Canty for half of what we would give Haynesworth, it would leave us more room to build at other positions through FA, and also give us more room to sign draft picks, especially if we trade down and end up with more overall picks. You've got to see where I'm coming from as far as Haynesworth's red flags. Age, durability, desire, character... pretty glaring I'd say.




Look, If AH can come here and be as effective as he was for Tennessee last year for multiple seasons for the Redskins, then rock and roll. But we had the 4th overall defense without him. Let's say we signed Canty to bolster the D-line, and his smaller deal allowed us more flexibility in improving the LB/O-line positions; would that not be better overall for the team? I think so.

I don't doubt AH can be a stud when he wants to. Again, I just have a bad feeling.

Thats basically what I was trying to say in my previous post. You said it better. I agree with your logic 100%

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