King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

Ok, I've got a question. Someone at work just informed me that the Skins are reported to be possibly going after Dallas's DE. not Ware but the other one who made the pro bowl. I would think that is the LDE for Dallas and letting Evans go? Has anyone heard it also? My lame source says it was on ESPN. If true would we not have a sick defense; Carter, Haynesworth, Griffin, whoever is Dallas's LDE, Fletcher, Monty, and Taylor, then throw in LL, Horton, CR, and Hall? I just can't imagine how we could do it money wise but if all cylinders worked and there was chemistry.....we probably would have one of the best defenses. again it boils down to money and chemistry.

I'm still looking for the rumor though so don't get your panties in a bunch.

I belive the DE is Canty.

The only place I've heard this is from JLC in Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/02/redskins_like_chris_canty.html). I just checked ESPN Rumors and PFT, and I haven't seen anything else about this.

I found this...

NFL Football Rumors - NFL Rumors - National Football League Rumor Central - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl %2ffeatures%2frumors)

They mention it only on this page but it's under Tues. 24th.

I found this...

NFL Football Rumors - NFL Rumors - National Football League Rumor Central - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl %2ffeatures%2frumors)

They mention it only on this page but it's under Tues. 24th.

They got their information from JLC. JLC gets his information from reading THE WARPATH. Be careful what you post, he'll take it as fact. :)

They got their information from JLC. JLC gets his information from reading THE WARPATH. Be careful what you post, he'll take it as fact. :)


Man oh man, now I feel like a dog chasing his own tail. :(

That's b/c we can see into the future and know for a fact that Haynesworth is going to be a failure. :Smoker:

Haynesworth is 28 and historically DTs start declining before they hit 30. They can still be good, but to expect Haynesworth, a huge dude whose been double-teamed for most of his 7 year career, to hold up for the next 5-6 years is utter foolishness. If he didnt have character issues and wasnt considered lazy every year except the last two where he has been playing for a new contract, then we could reasonably expect to get another year or two out of him. however, since he has only played at an elite level the past two years, we have nothing to make us think he'll continue to play that hard when he gets his money. All the odds are stacked in favor of Haynesworth being a disappointment on the team that signs him. Is it possible Haynesworth will continue to play at his 2008 level for the next 2-3years and still play at a high level for 2-3 more after that? sure. but its simply not likely. IMO the odds of that happening given everything ive mentioned above are probably around 0-20%. Without being 100% sure the salary cap will go away in 2010 and never come back again, its simply too great a risk to take.


But seriously folks...the other thing that has to be taken into consideration is the future of two of our interior linemen, Montgomery and Golston. One or both could be gone next year. Surprisingly, I've heard that there's more interest in Golston than Montgomery (who I've heard called a young Haynesworth, both because of his potential and inconsistencies in his dedication). But anyway, it's possible we could lose them...and maybe get a couple of 2nd or 3rd rounders in return.
Do you know if we've placed a tender on either of them? The Haynesworth rumors have seriously hurt our leverage if weve been in trade talks with other teams about either of these two guys.

Smoot, how could we get "a couple of 2nd or 3rd rounders in return" for Golston & AM? You think someone would trade that much for them? Sounds high to me.

There's no word of a tender on either. Isn't the deadline near or even passed for that?

The deadline for tendering Montgomery and Golston is Thursday afternoon. From what I understand both are expected to receive 2nd round tenders (that could change I suppose). But anyway, suppose that happens. And like I said I really haven't heard of any team right now that's interested in Montgomery but at least 5 that are interested in Golston. So it's possible, if not probable, that he could be headed elsewhere and we could get a solid draft pick in return. But with RFA tenders, it has nothing to do with any prearranged trades really. It's not like the Redskins are actively shopping either of these guys around. They just know that it's potentially a win-win for them to give both 2nd round tenders.

Although I like Golston I would do cartwheels to get a 2nd round pick for him. That seems like a lot of compenstation for him and I wonder if it would scare off those 5 teams who like him.

The deadline for tendering Montgomery and Golston is Thursday afternoon. From what I understand both are expected to receive 2nd round tenders (that could change I suppose). But anyway, suppose that happens. And like I said I really haven't heard of any team right now that's interested in Montgomery but at least 5 that are interested in Golston. So it's possible, if not probable, that he could be headed elsewhere and we could get a solid draft pick in return. But with RFA tenders, it has nothing to do with any prearranged trades really. It's not like the Redskins are actively shopping either of these guys around. They just know that it's potentially a win-win for them to give both 2nd round tenders.

if we tender both of them for 2nd rounders, and no one else tries to sign them, what are we on the hook for, financially?

We just extended Griff. If we're on the hook in 2009 for Monty and Golston, AND we sign Haynesworth, that strikes me as overkill. I dont know why teams would want Golston over Monty, but maybe i misjudged his potential. Golton did a fine job last year, but i dont think he did anything to prove hes worth a 2nd rounder.

Although I like Golston I would do cartwheels to get a 2nd round pick for him. That seems like a lot of compenstation for him and I wonder if it would scare off those 5 teams who like him.

well i honestly wouldnt want to let him go for less. id rather have golston than take a gamble on what vinny would do with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

There probably are teams interested in Montgomery, I just haven't heard it. A 2nd round tender for each of them I believe is a 1 year, $1.5 million contract.

But suppose they do that, that doesn't mean we'd get a 2nd rounder in return. Case in point, the Niners placed a 1st round tender on Brandon Lloyd. Instead of trading a 1st, we traded a 3rd and 4th. So conceivably something similar could happen with us.