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SmootSmack
07-30-2009, 05:14 PM
I was at this morning's practice. Run of the mill. Three things worth mentioning. Devin Thomas looked sharp, Samuels looks skinnier, and Peter King was present taking some notes but mostly talking to a fat man in a suit (who was either a Sidney Greenstreet impersonator or JFK's beat reporter) and Mike Wise. Also Lindsay Czarniak wore blue. So four things.

You sure it wasn't Ross Tucker King was with?

GTripp0012
07-30-2009, 05:17 PM
GTripp,

My take is if Campbell falters he may not be yanked mid-way, but he will not be resigned in the offseason. This year is do or die for him as far as being a Redskin - nothing short of making the playoffs in my opinion - 8-8 will not cut it this year with the defense as stacked as it is.

If the Skins totally falter and wind up a lottery winner in the draft next year I see us taking a qb in the first round - even though I love to build from the trenches I think Synder will say lets take the star qb if he is available when they pick - or lets try and trade for one if available.

I know that Capbell has been in more systems than is reasonable, but I just don't see after several years here that Synder will extend him if we miss out on the playoffs due to an ineffective offense.

I hope Campbell proves all the naysayers wrong and really breaks out - that way we can focus our future drafts on the offensive line and not have to spend next year going through another quarterback adjustment.I agree that the defense is completely stacked, and deep at the first and third levels, but that's not an absolute guarantee that it will play well, or even outplay the offense.

Mixed in with the overwhelming evidence that suggests this team will succeed is legitimate reason it may fail: mostly reasons unrelated to Jason Campbell.

Quite simply, if we have a front office that can't differentiate between problems caused by the quarterback, and problems independent of the quarterback, and they've shown little reason to believe they can, then it doesn't really matter one way or the other who the quarterback is on this team as the offense is only bound to get more ineffective in the future.

I think the biggest running misconception about the Redskins is that people aren't seeing the grand canyon sized chasm between where the offense is, and where it could be if the team isn't careful about the moves it makes. Putting a bad quarterback in there, having Portis get hurt, multiple injuries on the offensive line combined with continued ineffectiveness of the receivers...and we're a 5-11 team even given a minor defensive improvement. We have to be careful not to mess with what's right about the offense, and only work on the problem areas.

tryfuhl
07-30-2009, 05:26 PM
James Thrash just walked out to the practice field with the team. He was wearing casual Redskins gear. Coaching intern, perhaps?

from twitter

SmootSmack
07-30-2009, 05:37 PM
What's up with Dorsey? Heard he got carted off

Bill B
07-30-2009, 05:53 PM
I agree that the defense is completely stacked, and deep at the first and third levels, but that's not an absolute guarantee that it will play well, or even outplay the offense.

Mixed in with the overwhelming evidence that suggests this team will succeed is legitimate reason it may fail: mostly reasons unrelated to Jason Campbell.

Quite simply, if we have a front office that can't differentiate between problems caused by the quarterback, and problems independent of the quarterback, and they've shown little reason to believe they can, then it doesn't really matter one way or the other who the quarterback is on this team as the offense is only bound to get more ineffective in the future.

I think the biggest running misconception about the Redskins is that people aren't seeing the grand canyon sized chasm between where the offense is, and where it could be if the team isn't careful about the moves it makes. Putting a bad quarterback in there, having Portis get hurt, multiple injuries on the offensive line combined with continued ineffectiveness of the receivers...and we're a 5-11 team even given a minor defensive improvement. We have to be careful not to mess with what's right about the offense, and only work on the problem areas.


Good points. Maybe would it be fair to say the way the Skins should approach building the offense is to look at when the Skins won the Super Bowl when Rypien was the qb - basically build an incredible dominant offensive line and good recievers with an adequate running back and most qbs could thrive?

SmootSmack
07-30-2009, 06:29 PM
James Thrash just walked out to the practice field with the team. He was wearing casual Redskins gear. Coaching intern, perhaps?

from twitter

He's got a front office job I believe. I think he's going to be doing something like helping young players transition into the NFL, adjust to life as a pro athlete, etc.

GTripp0012
07-30-2009, 06:37 PM
Good points. Maybe would it be fair to say the way the Skins should approach building the offense is to look at when the Skins won the Super Bowl when Rypien was the qb - basically build an incredible dominant offensive line and good recievers with an adequate running back and most qbs could thrive?In a more immediate sense: take the 2008 Miami Dolphins offense, remove the big gains and wasted plays that came with the wildcat, and that's what the offense should look to accomplish this year.

We don't have very good receivers, but they have the potential to be as good as the Dolphins' were last year.

Lotus
07-30-2009, 07:21 PM
What's up with Dorsey? Heard he got carted off

According to Redskins.com Dorsey had cramps.

70Chip
07-30-2009, 07:46 PM
You sure it wasn't Ross Tucker King was with?

He was there as well. He's not fat at all. He must be way down from his playing weight.

SmootSmack
07-30-2009, 08:51 PM
According to Redskins.com Dorsey had cramps.

Same excuse my wife uses...

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