What has Obama done well?

1. You were dupped, almost everybody was duped, don't get mad at me. I was pissed that we had to be there for some BS. Once we made the mess though, we had to clean it up.I wish I had the foresight you have. When you have the lottery numbers and ATS picks for each week let me know.

2. They are not following our rules, so we get all huffy and puffy. Yes they signed a treaty so what. It was only supposed to last 25 years. Then it was extended by a "consensus". Were they part of that consensus? Anyway all you did was support my point. We are trying to tell them what they can and cannot do with Nuclear Energy. Not that it is a bad thing. FYI the U.S. is the workhorse of the U.N.We, as in the U.S. unilaterally, isn't telling them anything. We as in the international community (which libs love so much) are telling them. And yes the U.S. is the primary funding for the UN, big mistake IMO for an organization which is more often than not against US interests.

4. Don't worry, I will take care of my grandma if Obamacare falters. It's not going to fail. It is a bunch of speculation by a bunch of people who will lose money over the whole ordeal.Hopefully it never gets passed with any gov't option.

Agreed. It may not be in the UCMJ, but my superiors would've made it very clear that bowing that way is unacceptable.

You're telling me that if you were stationed in Japan and a local person bowed you wouldn't reciprocate? Not bowing is not only acceptable but preferred by superiors? How vile, especially coming from people who value and fight for their traditions and way of life. I suppose one can not expect certain men to be wise, fortunately U.S. commanders and generals have traditionally showed respect to Japanese customs (http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUST8360820080403) even under disgraceful circumstance.

Rear Admiral James Kelly, the top U.S. naval commander in Japan, bowed and apologized to the mayor of Yokosuka City, where the U.S. navy is headquartered. U.S. ambassador Thomas Schieffer expressed condolences and regret.

4. Don't worry, I will take care of my grandma if Obamacare falters.Then what's the point of giving $$$ and control of the U.S. health care system over to the Fed Gov't if you have to then "take care of grandma". If you want to give more $$$ and control of your family's health care to the gov't, have at it. Me, I'll keep my $$$ and control of my family's health care in the private sector, thank you.

You're telling me that if you were stationed in Japan and a local person bowed you wouldn't reciprocate? Not bowing is not only acceptable but preferred by superiors? How vile, especially coming from people who value and fight for their traditions and way of life. I suppose one can not expect certain men to be wise, fortunately U.S. commanders and generals have traditionally showed respect to Japanese customs (http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUST8360820080403) even under disgraceful circumstance.I was stationed in Japan for 3 years. Huge difference in returning a bow to another citizen, which I did often, and bowing (especially as POTUS) to a monarch or king. In this instance the US commander was bowing to show remorse and regret, which he should've in this circumstance. Someone under his command disgraced him and the entire U.S. Obama has NOTHING to bow to any foreign leader for (I know we've gone down this road before so rather than the page long responses let me summarize: saden: The U.S. has many things to be ashamed of. SS33: The U.S. is the greatest country on earth. Both posts contain YouTube clips and links to various sites backing up each point)

In meeting with anyone from another government I would shake hands but never bow (and certainly not hold hands and kiss either). In the Far East I would return a bow, but not bow first.

I fanally thought of something Obama has done good.

Getting people to show up to local town hall meetings.

From what I have read in the post here people are not saying he hates America because he was not born here

Ok, that wasn't the impression I got from this post

http://www.thewarpath.net/576518-post73.html

You're telling me that if you were stationed in Japan and a local person bowed you wouldn't reciprocate? Not bowing is not only acceptable but preferred by superiors? How vile, especially coming from people who value and fight for their traditions and way of life. I suppose one can not expect certain men to be wise, fortunately U.S. commanders and generals have traditionally showed respect to Japanese customs (http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUST8360820080403) even under disgraceful circumstance.

Flush your head out new guy. You think this is about freedom? This is a slaughter. If I'm going to get my balls blown off for a word, then my word is puntang.

You say it wont fail because you look at the other goverment programs and see how well they run. Lets look at the post office ops bad choice. How about SS ops bad choice. Lets see what program does the goverment run that has stayed within budget and runs great. Hmmm, nothing. It would stay afloat with the tax payers bailing it out but I think they will need to get a faster clock.U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time (http://www.usdebtclock.org/)

Enlighten me. What is wrong with the postal system? Does your mail not get delivered in a timely manner. Does your grandmothers mail not arrive because it would be a waste of time for her to look at it because her eye sight is so bad? I would ask similar questions about SS but there are a couple of serious issues there. On the bright side though, it still pays out when it is supposed to. The problem is that it pays out when it isn't supposed to as well.I do not see the federal govt using universal healthcare as a personal piggy bank like they did with SS. And if they do, they should go to prison for embesslement.

I was stationed in Japan for 3 years. Huge difference in returning a bow to another citizen, which I did often, and bowing (especially as POTUS) to a monarch or king. In this instance the US commander was bowing to show remorse and regret, which he should've in this circumstance. Someone under his command disgraced him and the entire U.S. Obama has NOTHING to bow to any foreign leader for (I know we've gone down this road before so rather than the page long responses let me summarize: saden: The U.S. has many things to be ashamed of. SS33: The U.S. is the greatest country on earth. Both posts contain YouTube clips and links to various sites backing up each point)

In meeting with anyone from another government I would shake hands but never bow (and certainly not hold hands and kiss either). In the Far East I would return a bow, but not bow first.

My post was in response to TTL post that indicated that his superior and himself (admittedly surmised from his previous posts and his general dickishness) viewed bowing as unacceptable proposition under any circumstance which you voiced as agreeable. Clearly, by your response, you don't seem to share this view and so I am left confused as to what you find agreeable.

Bowing in apology is acceptable but bowing in pleasantries is not? Would you think it acceptable if Obama (the commander in chief) bowed to the same mayor, prime minister or emperor of Japan under similar circumstance of remorse?

When in foreign lands wise men show the utmost deference to other cultures and their customs even if one perceives such endeavor to be embracing and shameful for to do otherwise is ultimately acting against ones own self-interest. Do not limit yourself to simply returning a bow my friend. Perhaps knowing what bowing is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowing) and its significance in different cultures might be helpful assessing its permissibility and irrelevance of order of bowing which you find virtuous.

p.s. What does the Office of Protocol say about the Commander in Chief and citizens not bowing to heads of states (monarch or otherwise), where can I find the protocol text?

My post was in response to TTL post that indicated that his superior and himself (admittedly surmised from his previous posts and his general dickishness) viewed bowing as unacceptable proposition under any circumstance which you voiced as agreeable. Clearly, by your response, you don't seem to share this view and so I am left confused as to what you find agreeable.I was interpreting TTE's response as in reference to the POTUS's deep bow (much like a Japanese bow), maybe I missed or misinterpreted something.

Bowing in apology is acceptable but bowing in pleasantries is not? Would you think it acceptable if Obama (the commander in chief) bowed to the same mayor, prime minister or emperor of Japan under similar circumstance of remorse?The difference is in the situation. Bowing as a civilian in a non-offical capacity to another civilian in a foreign land is completely acceptable. But Obama isn't a civilian for at least the next 3 1/2 years, he's the POTUS and Commander in Chief. As Commander in Chief, no, he shouldn't bow in remorse IMO, nor should the Secretary of State, a lower level official like the regional or base commander, fine.

When in foreign lands wise men show the utmost deference to other cultures and their customs even if one perceives such endeavor to be embracing and shameful for to do otherwise is ultimately acting against ones own self-interest. Do not limit yourself to simply returning a bow my friend. Perhaps knowing what bowing is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowing) and its significance in different cultures might be helpful assessing its permissibility and irrelevance of order of bowing which you find virtuous.Thanks for the info, but again what a civilian does in a social setting isn't comparable to bowing in deference or submissiveness to any foreign gov't official or monarch/king. If that makes me unwise to only bow before the Pope and the Eucharist, then I guess I am unwise.

p.s. What does the Office of Protocol say about the Commander in Chief and citizens not bowing to heads of states (monarch or otherwise), where can I find the protocol text?Working on it.