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CRedskinsRule 08-05-2010, 03:55 PM Actually, this does seem to set up for a trade, if you consider the conversation from a GM point of view.
If BA is trying to gauge the market, he needs to be able to say the knee is not an issue and this is AH trying to push back at the 3-4 scheme. A clean MRI would open the door to a possible trade to most 4-3 teams, who would be sold the fact that AH simply wants a 4-3 team, and shown clips of him stuffing the Giants twice at the 4 yard line. Certainly there has to be some market for him.
As for Shanahan's comments you could also interpret them as back handed digs at AH. By saying AH was doing better in drills than he would have thought, Shanahan could be implying that the injury really isn't what is holding AH back. Likewise, by saying that the soreness is getting worse, when it should have been getting better, assuming the MRI comes back clean, is basically calling AH's self report of the condition a lie, or intentional exaggeration.
That said, I really hope AH gets off the bench, and gets to work, and plays the season as a Skin.
GhettoDogAllStars 08-05-2010, 04:22 PM Paintrain, your captions are hilarious.
Monkeydad 08-05-2010, 04:25 PM ^ I said that I smell a trade based on precedent. Shanny had a similar situation with Montrae Holland, who was traded before camp was over.
Financially and logistically speaking, Montrae Holland was a LOT easier to trade than Haynesworth...because of his contract and his personality that gets way too much press time.
I don't think we could find a taker...we've tried.
Ruhskins 08-05-2010, 04:30 PM Financially and logistically speaking, Montrae Holland was a LOT easier to trade than Haynesworth...because of his contract and his personality that gets way too much press time.
I don't think we could find a taker...we've tried.
I don't think Haynesworth is a financial burden for any team right now if he were to be traded. Honestly, what would be more of a barrier is the hype behind him not passing the fitness test. As I said, other than not passing the test, AH has said and done the right things, but I doubt that any team will be able to get by the general opinion of him.
ArtMonkDrillz 08-05-2010, 04:50 PM Reporters everywhere are scrambling to get an MRI to see how theirs compares to Haynesworth's. LOL, saw that on twitterNow that's funny! If it turns out he has some kind of knee damage these reporters should feel like huge dicks, but they won't, they'll just look for the next stupid topic du jour to pile on.
Lotus 08-05-2010, 04:58 PM Financially and logistically speaking, Montrae Holland was a LOT easier to trade than Haynesworth...because of his contract and his personality that gets way too much press time.
I don't think we could find a taker...we've tried.
We tried before April 1, when AH's contract WAS a huge issue. It is not such an issue any more.
Obviously I am in no position to say we will trade him. But I think we might. Shanny might be willing to take less-than-value for him just to have the headache gone.
And if his MRI comes back fine, that is something which will sooth concerns of other teams.
Ruhskins 08-05-2010, 05:12 PM We tried before April 1, when AH's contract WAS a huge issue. It is not such an issue any more.
Obviously I am in no position to say we will trade him. But I think we might. Shanny might be willing to take less-than-value for him just to have the headache gone.
And if his MRI comes back fine, that is something which will sooth concerns of other teams.
Has Shanahan said he's a headache or has the media? I mean, Shanahan is well within his rights to trade him, but I think he's smart enough to get some production out of him. Besides, the team will be in a better position to trade him after this season than now.
If this was a couple of weeks ago, then I'd say, yes the team would be desperate enough to trade him. Right now, I don't think is a good idea.
Dirtbag59 08-05-2010, 05:15 PM Haynesworth is not getting traded. He's going through an unfortunate setback. The coaches are loving him right now, he loves the defense, and on top of that he's motivated. Did he make some mistakes this offseason, hell yes. However it's time to move past it and play football.
skinsfan_nn 08-05-2010, 06:52 PM Fat al update, no structural damage.
Albert Haynesworth MRI shows no structural damage
Updated at 6:40 p.m
An MRI exam Thursday of Albert Haynesworth's irritated knee revealed no structural damage, and the Redskins are hopeful the Pro Bowl defensive lineman will be at full strength soon, people familiar with the situation said.
Haynesworth missed the 13th practice session of the Redskins training camp Thursday morning. The knee problem, which developed late last week, has prevented him from taking the conditioning test Shanahan requires of players who missed more than half of the offseason workouts.
"We're giving him an MRI today because his knee has been a little bit sore, more sore than it has been in the past," Shanahan said, speaking before Haynesworth underwent the MRI. "In the past, every third or fourth day it'd be a little sore, according to the trainers. But now it's been a couple days consistently sore...We're going to MRI it, see if he's okay and then we'll go through the rehab work to get it stronger."
Haynesworth spent the entire morning practice session on the field, watching his teammates. He then spent more than 20 minutes after the practice working with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, defensive line coach Jacob Burney and strength and conditioning coach Ray Wright. Haynesworth hit a blocking sled and several tackling dummies, in addition to working on concepts of the Redskins' new 3-4 defense.
The work appeared to be the most intense and advanced of any of Haynesworth's previous individual workouts throughout camp. Despite that, Shanahan said he did not know when Haynesworth would be able to take the conditioning test.
"We'll just wait and see," Shanahan said. "That's why he gets treatment. He was out there doing individual work today and was a lot further ahead today than I thought he would be. So today it surprised me how well he did during the drill work so we'll just wait and see."
When pressed on the need to get Haynesworth into the rotation in practice so that he might be able to play in preseason games, Shanahan reiterated that his goal was to have Haynesworth practicing and healthy throughout the whole season - not just for training camp. Essentially, he said, the routine of Haynesworth skipping practice during the week but playing in games has ended.
"If you take a look at last year how many games he played without practicing, we're going to make sure that he can practice so he can stay healthy and play at a very high level," Shanahan said. "I've got all the stats in there how many games he played where he didn't practice throughout the whole week. ... If you don't practice you're not going to play well. You've got to practice well to play well. That's what the NFL and football is all about.
"Every once in a while you might get a guy in there that practices a little bit and has a good game but if you don't practice consistently it's hard to play consistently. And that's what I'm after. I'm after him playing well for the whole season."
Kindoy 08-05-2010, 06:54 PM Came across some entertaining AH shots: (caption-worthy!)
you see coach... i used to be this big
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/ca/fullj.33b11ddd6088e70797679a136d83bc82/33b11ddd6088e70797679a136d83bc82-getty-102929214wm036_washington_r.jpg
Albert, i know the sideline is tempting... but you have to stay away.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/92/fullj.fcd157824bfa6e395fe142c5edbb3fe2/fcd157824bfa6e395fe142c5edbb3fe2-getty-102929214wm037_washington_r.jpg
*click* 69 seconds.. Shanny he made it!!
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/1d/fullj.58c8236f78fc2103fe69b9a0d6ca23a9/58c8236f78fc2103fe69b9a0d6ca23a9-getty-102929214wm038_washington_r.jpg
And a bonus one of Trent doing the Hokey Pokey:
aaaahhhhh... excuse me
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/c7/fullj.80f19416b0476b5c926b544c21aa215a/80f19416b0476b5c926b544c21aa215a-getty-102929214wm042_washington_r.jpg
nice pics
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