And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........


skinsfaninok
01-04-2012, 12:17 AM
I wouldn't draft Trent Richardson inthe top 10 if I'm any team

SFREDSKIN
01-04-2012, 12:24 AM
I wouldn't draft Trent Richardson inthe top 10 if I'm any team

If there's a player I would look at it in the later rounds but his stock will probably rise is:

Terrance Ganaway | Baylor, RB : 2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile (http://nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69990&draftyear=2012&genpos=RB)

SkinItup
01-04-2012, 12:37 AM
You bring up a great point. I never thought of it but you're right; Shannahan can't afford to draft a rookie QB and go 6 and 10 next year and expect to keep his job. So the impetus will be acquiring an experienced NFL QB (Matt Flynn). Based on this revelation I'm going to assume that Shannahan will go buck-wild in free agency this year to secure the best WR talent available (Desean Jackson/Vincent Jackson).

I disagree. I think he has to bring in a qb(s) this year for sure but I can't see Snyder treating MS like Del Rio. Most owners know that a rookie qb needs time to adapt and won't off a coach for a bad year with one unless the rookie qb plays like Ryan Leaf or well Blaine gabbert.

skinsfaninok
01-04-2012, 12:41 AM
If there's a player I would look at it in the later rounds but his stock will probably rise is:

Terrance Ganaway*|*Baylor,*RB*:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile (http://nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69990&draftyear=2012&genpos=RB)


My favorite back is the kid from Washington, Polk he's a stud

The Goat
01-04-2012, 01:14 AM
Exactly. There is no upside to having a rookie QB and then firing the coach. This is offseason 1A of the Shanahan regime.

Unless there is an available HC who would likely do better at developing that rookie (franchise) QB...

GTripp0012
01-04-2012, 01:19 AM
Exactly. There is no upside to having a rookie QB and then firing the coach. This is offseason 1A of the Shanahan regime./looks at calendar

I, um, don't agree?

Paintrain
01-04-2012, 09:26 AM
/looks at calendar

I, um, don't agree?

Lol, I know.. Goes back to my interpretation of the 'plan'.. 2010 he didn't do anything to build longterm so I'm not considering that in the 'rebuild'.. 2011 was lockout shortened/impacted but he worked exclusively on rebuilding the defense in the draft and free agency. 2012 will be focused on rebuilding the offense in free agency and the draft.

skinsguy
01-04-2012, 09:39 AM
Completely disagree. Think of his first two offseasons- the first is an uncapped year with very little available as far as free agents, and a draft that had Sam Bradford and not much else for QB's. This past offseason was a labor stoppage and a draft that had some reaches at QB in the 1st round.

Sure it sucks that we have to wait until season 3 of Shanahan to get our potential franchise QB moving forward, but what good does it do to fire Shanahan if he's not a 10 win coach in his first year with his new (and likely rookie) QB?

You're exactly correct! I've argued that the first season shouldn't even be considered under evaluation, because Shanahan wanted to simply evaluate the players who were already on the team. He brought in new players in positions where it was obvious that the 'skins needed help, but other than that, he truly didn't know what type of team he was inheriting. The true start of purge and rebuild didn't start until last offseason, but a lot of that was hampered by the lockout. So, this will be the first complete offseason in which Mike Shanahan and the rest of the coaching staff can execute their offseason plans without any road blocks.

So, with that being said, it MAY not be necessary for the Redskins to give up a lot to secure another QB for next season. Don't get me wrong, the Redskins NEED a QB, but they also need to stick with the plan of continuing to build the TEAM and its depth and not get caught up in drafting a QB just to be drafting a QB. I think Shanahan wants to knock it out of the park in regards to landing a franchise QB, and that might not be possible with the way THIS offseason is going to be. I would be more or less disappointed that we'd have to endure another year of Rex Grossman, but ultimately, I LOVE the idea of having a solid team built and in place for a young quarterback to come in and develop.

SkinzWin
01-04-2012, 09:43 AM
You're exactly correct! I've argued that the first season shouldn't even be considered under evaluation, because Shanahan wanted to simply evaluate the players who were already on the team. He brought in new players in positions where it was obvious that the 'skins needed help, but other than that, he truly didn't know what type of team he was inheriting. The true start of purge and rebuild didn't start until last offseason, but a lot of that was hampered by the lockout. So, this will be the first complete offseason in which Mike Shanahan and the rest of the coaching staff can execute their offseason plans without any road blocks.

So, with that being said, it MAY not be necessary for the Redskins to give up a lot to secure another QB for next season. Don't get me wrong, the Redskins NEED a QB, but they also need to stick with the plan of continuing to build the TEAM and its depth and not get caught up in drafting a QB just to be drafting a QB. I think Shanahan wants to knock it out of the park in regards to landing a franchise QB, and that might not be possible with the way THIS offseason is going to be. I would be more or less disappointed that we'd have to endure another year of Rex Grossman, but ultimately, I LOVE the idea of having a solid team built and in place for a young quarterback to come in and develop.

Can't agree more. Not much point of having a franchise QB if he gets lit up and is injured and doesn't have anyone to throw to, or a running game to take pressure off of him. Look at Sam Bradford...

KI Skins Fan
01-04-2012, 10:03 AM
All I'm saying about Mike Shanahan getting fired is that he is no doubt aware that it is standard operating procedure for NFL owners to fire a coach who fails to deliver a winning season in his third year as coach. It is so predictable that it ought to be in the Owner's Handbook, if there is such a thing. Why should Dan Snyder behave any differently than the other owners?

If Shanahan, the HC, fails to deliver a winning season in 2012 because he was breaking in a rookie QB, then DS may decide that it is the GM who should be fired for not giving Shanahan enough talent to win in his third year. The problem for Shanahan is that he is also the de facto GM. So, there is no true GM to be sacrificed so that Shanahan can keep his job.

Sometimes, an owner will allow a HC to sacrifice a coordinator or two or some position coaches to buy another year. But it looks like Shanahan will clean house on coaches this offseason, so he won't be able to play that worn out card.

For me, then, it is logical that the solution Shanahan will seek for the QB position in 2012 is to go with a veteran acquisition other than Grossman and draft a promising rookie to develop. Those moves and enough wins in 2012 should allow Shanahan to keep his job which is ultimately what it is all about for him.

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