Cousins to start 2015 Season


Skinsfanatic
09-03-2015, 12:48 PM
Since this is the Cousins thread, back to Cousins.

I just wanted to get into the numbers a little bit in an effort to find as much hope as I could. It's well documented that last year when Cousins had a poor game, things REALLY went south on him, which Jay attributed to mental toughness. Well the one game that really went bad was the Giants game in Week 4 where he had the 4 INTs and lost another fumble.

So well then, how does he do when things don't go south? Is he competitive?

In the other 5 games in which he played, he averaged 21 for 34 for 291 yards, 1.8 TDs per game, 1.0 INTs per game, and 1.2 sacks per game. Extrapolate that over the course of a 16-game season and you get a projected starting QB line of:

342 for 547, a 62.5% completion rate
4,649 yards, 29 TDs, 16 INTs, and 19 sacks taken

Now of course this is extrapolating a 5-game sample size, and there's selection bias here because I'm removing the Giants game. But still I would take that performance happily, even though the 16 picks will still be among league leaders and mean we're only a mediocre team. Even with the picks, it would be positive progress at the QB spot.

So it seems Jay is onto something, getting Kirk past the mental hurdle of collapsing under adversity. If he's able to coach up that mental aspect of it, the Shanahans and Gruden both might be right in thinking he can be very good.

For fairness reasons, if you are going to extrapolate, you need to take out the best statistical game as well as the worst (the Eagles game), which leaves you with a season of:

4104 yards, 62.675% completion, 24 touchdowns, 20 interceptions.

This looks more like Kirk Cousins to me.

over the mountain
09-03-2015, 01:00 PM
Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014 (http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/)

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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mooby
09-03-2015, 01:06 PM
...and they reversed course.




I'm in tears right now laughing so hard.

I'm not. It's embarrassing. Anytime the 'Skins are mentioned in the media since 2012, it's never about good news. I'd rather they just stayed out of the spotlight. And now we have this Russini story about to blow up? FFS, we can't do anything right around here.

44Deezel
09-03-2015, 01:13 PM
For fairness reasons, if you are going to extrapolate, you need to take out the best statistical game as well as the worst (the Eagles game), which leaves you with a season of:

4104 yards, 62.675% completion, 24 touchdowns, 20 interceptions.

This looks more like Kirk Cousins to me.

I'd take those numbers from a guy about to start only his tenth game, especially if we see improvement as the season goes on. They look similar to Andrew Luck's rookie season, and I hear he's pretty good.

4,374 yards 54.1% 23TDs 18TDs

44Deezel
09-03-2015, 01:17 PM
Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014 (http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/)

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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http://maxcdn.nflbreakdowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kirk-Cousins-9-Interceptions-757x364.png


We should probably expect some growing pains, but I'm not ready to conclude that Kirk Cousins has hit his ceiling after only starting 9 games. Yes, he threw a lot of picks last year, but still threw more TDs and if he improves over time, he'll be just like a vast majority of guys who have played the position - struggles early, but better with experience. I'll play the odds and say we see a much improved version of KC as the season goes on. If not, it's back to the drawing board after the season.

44Deezel
09-03-2015, 01:26 PM
Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014 (http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/)

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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http://maxcdn.nflbreakdowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kirk-Cousins-9-Interceptions-757x364.png

Great site. Good breakdown is his 10TDs as well:

Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 10 Touchdowns in 2014 (http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-10-touchdowns-2014/)

Chico23231
09-03-2015, 01:31 PM
I'd take those numbers from a guy about to start only his tenth game, especially if we see improvement as the season goes on. They look similar to Andrew Luck's rookie season, and I hear he's pretty good.

4,374 yards 54.1% 23TDs 18TDs

Right

Another thing that makes this different for Cousins is he is starting the season as "the guy". I think from a mental stand point this is big for him.

Id really like to know in the locker room how this annoucement went over with the rest of the offense...will they rally around Cousins? Are they upset RG3 is not the starter? Id really like to know what the WR think.

KI Skins Fan
09-03-2015, 01:49 PM
There's not enough bandwidth to show all of Brett Farve's interceptions and he turned out fine.

30gut
09-03-2015, 01:57 PM
30, im glad to see you do see the positives with Kirk. I thought a few weeks ago you overly optimistic on RG3 and overly pessimistic on Kirk.I'm not sure why you think I wouldn't see positives or be overly pessimistic about Kirk?

Most people either don't know or ignore the fact that I said Griffin should have been cut at the end of the season prior to training camp. Many people in this forum (and this may or may not apply to you) but many assume that defense of inaccurate/incorrect statements about Griffin to equate to a dislike of Kirk. I just call it like I see. Just because I thought Griffin should have been cut doesn't mean I'm gonna agree with bandwagon echo chamber bashing.

At the end of the day I don't care who the QB is nor the style of football....provided we win.

over the mountain
09-03-2015, 02:06 PM
Id really like to know what the WR think.

"You cant do epic shit with basic people" - Desean Jackson

The day after we lost 27-7 vs the then 1-8 bucs. Helu was our best receiver with 57 yards. RG3 quarterbacking.

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