Cousins to start 2015 Season

You and 30gut are about as negative as I could imagine about a young QB with a lot of upside.I could easily same the same for this entire thread. Your statement about a young QB with a lot of upside applies just as readily to Griffin(actually younger) as it does to Kirk.

But what makes you say I'm as 'negative as you could imagine' about Kirk?

I could easily same the same for this entire thread. Your statement about a young QB with a lot of upside applies just as readily to Griffin(actually younger) as it does to Kirk.

But what makes you say I'm as 'negative as you could imagine' about Kirk?

Truthfully, I just think you're negative period but I could dig up most of your posts and document your negativity towards Cousins. Anyone could probably say the same about me with RG3. I've never felt that a dual threat type QB was someone that I wanted on my team. I'm a pocket QB guy. But at least I'll cop to my bias against RG3. He never has shown me enough to believe in him. Never. Fun to watch at times? sure. NFL QB? nope. Kirk fits the mold and if he's stable, gives us something to build on. He doesn't need to be Peyton Manning. He just needs to be Chad Pennington to give us a shot. That said, I think he has tremendous upside. Give him 26 more starts to get him to the 35 that RG3 got and I have a high level of confidence that he's a productive QB putting us in position to win.

Interesting, very interesting view point. You think Kaepernick sucks. Which I have to believe is a hyperbolic way of saying you think he's a much below average QB?

The only stats read in your post was passing yardage, which makes me wonder if passing yardage is your focal measure of QB worth or suckitude.

I think many fans are distracted by volume passing numbers and equate volume with quality. Not sure if you are one or not but that's what your post suggests to me.

I don't think any excuse needs to made for the 49ers being 30th in passing yardage in 2012. First of all if you are gonna refer to the passing yardage from 2012 you have to remember that Kaep didn't start playing til week 10.. Also in 2012 Kaepernick was #1 in a little stat known as yards per attempt. San Fran took this QB who sucks and finished #11 in PPG and YPG. When it comes to efficiency they were even better: FBO ranks the 2012 49ers 7th in offensive efficiency 5th in pass efficiency and 3rd in run efficiency. Those are outstanding numbers and Kaep was the catalyst the engine for that offense with his arm and his legs. Individually in 2012 FBO rated Kaep 13th in DYAR 3rd in DVOA and 3rd in QBR.

You are creating revisionist history when you say Kaep sucks and mention 2012, lol dude was a pass away from being a SB champ.

i think you missed the point. he didn't say kaep sucked in 2012, he said he's sucked since then, but 49ers homers point to his performance from 3 years ago to justify him as a good qb in 2015, ignoring more current evidence to the contrary.

Over half the members cite his 2012 as the reason Kaepernick is a top 10 QB ... His downfall was when they put a spy on him, he can't seem to find the void in the pass coverage the spy leaves, he is also a one read QB, locks on receivers and takes off feeling pressure that isn't there. It took a while to expose his flaws.

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... The blind Kap homers don't see that. I think the ones who think RG3 2012 will return are cut from the same mold, they don't see his flaws, at least there aren't that many of them. (Aren't that many blind faith RG3 supporters)

Interesting, very interesting view point. You think Kaepernick sucks. Which I have to believe is a hyperbolic way of saying you think he's a much below average QB?

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You are creating revisionist history when you say Kaep sucks and mention 2012, lol dude was a pass away from being a SB champ.

His point, as I understood it, was that Kap was perceived as having a great 2012, but, since then, he has sucked b/c defenses figured him out and he can't adjust his talents to the traditional offense. Further, that those who say NOW that Kap is a great QB are those who point to his 2012 season (hmm, that sounds familiar).

In other words, Kap apologists seek to ignore three years of less than stellar (an at times very poor) play and point, instead, his success in a style of offense no longer effective as an every down system.

Since 2012, RGIII has been, on his best days, average and injury prone. If you remove 2012 as a never to be repeated fluke, RGIII simply has not shown much of anything despite being given every opportunity to take and run away with the job.

The saga continues..

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Truthfully, I just think you're negative period but I could dig up most of your posts and document your negativity towards Cousins. I think you are confusing my unpopular opinion about Griffin with having a overly negative view of Kirk. Not a big deal, you can think whatever you like. But saying that I'm as negative as you can imagine about Kirk just ain't true.

looking forward to 1 pm, Sunday, September 13th ...... yeehaw!

I could easily same the same for this entire thread. Your statement about a young QB with a lot of upside applies just as readily to Griffin(actually younger) as it does to Kirk.

But what makes you say I'm as 'negative as you could imagine' about Kirk?

To almost everyone else but you, RGIII's upside is mostly imaginary at this point. He has a powerful arm and is a decent runner. However, he is hesitant in the pocket, cannot perform the 3-step drop and throw with any consistency, and has zero pocket instinct. Throw in consistent examples of his inability or refusal to follow coaching instruction over the years, and his off the field drama, and you have a hot mess.

Other than his arm strength and (now reduced) athleticism, where is the upside? Again, I love the guy and was hoping he was THE guy. I bought the Kool-Aid over the summer that he was improving. I wanted it to be true.

Then I saw him in the first two preseason games. Turns out the new boss was the same as the old boss so it was time for me to pick up my guitar and play.

I think you are confusing my unpopular opinion about Griffin with having a overly negative view of Kirk. Not a big deal, you can think whatever you like. But saying that I'm as negative as you can imagine about Kirk just ain't true.

I think people are confusing your abrasive, " i have to be right" attitude as negative.
well...that, and your negative attitude.

Also from PFT..

Now that Kirk Cousins has been named the starting quarterback, Shanahan thinks a good season is coming.

“Washington will be much better than people think they will,” Shanahan said.