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mooby 11-10-2011, 11:39 PM Stuff keeps getting uglier and uglier.
Penn State child sex-abuse scandal: When we had the facts, we ran the story | PennLive.com (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_child_sex-abuse_sca.html)
Sandusky released on bail, judge orders no contact with minors | PennLive.com (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sandusky_released_on_bail_judg.html)
Dude didn't have to pay 1 penny for bail. WTF??
For some reason I just get the feeling Sandusky is going to take the coward's way out and just kill himself, rather than face the rest of his life in prison. He's probably going to sit there and say, well I've lived a long and fulfilling life, now that it's going down the shitter it's time for me to make my exit.
It's why I think there's just no appropriate justice for him. Killing him is the easy way out, letting him get raped in prison sounds like something he'd enjoy, and for some reason I get the feeling no matter how much money these kids get for their suffering, it's still not going to change the fact that they had to go through hell and will still need a lot of time and healing to get over it.
JPPT1974 11-11-2011, 12:33 AM Well hate it that will end the Paterno era like that. But had Joe done things differently and told on his assistants and done more, who knows as he would had kept his job.
SirClintonPortis 11-11-2011, 12:49 AM Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.
Dirtbag59 11-11-2011, 01:04 AM Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.
McQueary is the worst in all of this (save the obvious choice of Sandusky). He saw a 58 year old man sodomizing a kid. He was apparently 28 years old at the time 6'4 200 something pounds. I don't know about you but in a fight I would have thought that McQueary had the upper hand.
I mean if he had seen him naked in the showers with the kid that would have been one thing, because even though thats inappropriate it still leaves a little room for reasonable doubt. However from what I'm hearing he actually saw the rape and there is nothing to misinterpret about that situation. He caught him red handed and rather then saving the kid from a feeble old man he ran and left that kid to suffer through more abuse, not even calling the police. That is unacceptable.
Apparently one of the alleged reasons as to why he isn't being fired is to avoid any further liability. A university firing a whistle blower is apparently a great way to get sued.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/10/sports/McQueary/McQueary-articleLarge.jpg
"Golly gee Joe Pa this is great. Putting my career ahead of the needs of that 10 year old boy......totally worth it"
WilbursHomie 11-11-2011, 01:38 AM Rumors started today that there will be evidence released soon that Sandoushsky was actually pimping out young boys to rich pervs. A full on weird Nambla Sex ring type of thing. It was on aol earlier today. Who knows how much speculation that is but at this point, I'm not surprised by anything. I can't believe how evil this cat is. I grew up with a dad who arrested serial killers and sociopathic drug cartel hit men and this is giving me the same feeling in my stomach that the stories he would tell me about these demented raping serial killer types. Crimes that tear away the fabric of our very humanity. It's unreal man. Those poor kids.
NC_Skins 11-11-2011, 08:09 AM Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.
He's VP of Finance. Usually some stiff overseas the police department, but usually has 0 to do with law enforcement or making sure things are processed. That's how it is here at ECU and most likely that way across the nation. People want to say "well he was in charge of the police department", but that doesn't fly. Police officers are bound to different duties than say some guy of finance.
For some reason I just get the feeling Sandusky is going to take the coward's way out and just kill himself, rather than face the rest of his life in prison. He's probably going to sit there and say, well I've lived a long and fulfilling life, now that it's going down the shitter it's time for me to make my exit.
I think the guy is too egotistical to off himself. The way he flaunted those kids around the school after being caught several times already?
McQueary will not attend Nebraska game; his father says he'd speak if he could - NCAA Football - Sporting News (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2011-11/penn-state-scandal/story/mike-mcquearys-father-son-would-talk-if-he-could-penn-state-sex-scandal)
The father of Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary says if he could, his son would discuss the child sex abuse scandal that has led to the firing of coach Joe Paterno.
“It’s not that he’s not willing,” John J. McQueary, told The New York Times. “I think it’s eating him up not to be able to tell his side, but he’s under investigation by the grand jury. He’ll make it. He’s a tough kid.”
Looks like McQueary is under investigation from Grand Jury. Hrmmm.. Also the fact his dad called him a "tough kid" is laughable. No dad, he isn't tough, which is why his sorry ass walked out when a kid was getting raped. In fact, his dad should be getting fired from his job just for giving that sort of advice.
firstdown 11-11-2011, 09:58 AM McQueary is the worst in all of this (save the obvious choice of Sandusky). He saw a 58 year old man sodomizing a kid. He was apparently 28 years old at the time 6'4 200 something pounds. I don't know about you but in a fight I would have thought that McQueary had the upper hand.
I mean if he had seen him naked in the showers with the kid that would have been one thing, because even though thats inappropriate it still leaves a little room for reasonable doubt. However from what I'm hearing he actually saw the rape and there is nothing to misinterpret about that situation. He caught him red handed and rather then saving the kid from a feeble old man he ran and left that kid to suffer through more abuse, not even calling the police. That is unacceptable.
Apparently one of the alleged reasons as to why he isn't being fired is to avoid any further liability. A university firing a whistle blower is apparently a great way to get sued.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/10/sports/McQueary/McQueary-articleLarge.jpg
"Golly gee Joe Pa this is great. Putting my career ahead of the needs of that 10 year old boy......totally worth it"
That makes no sense and has no reason. Facts are facts no matter if he still has his job or not.
NC_Skins 11-11-2011, 11:06 AM Tickle The Wire » Column: Doing the Right Thing in Penn State Scandal (http://www.ticklethewire.com/2011/11/10/column-doing-the-right-thing-in-penn-state-scandal/)
This is a good article by a ex-FBI agent and a good story about Bo Schembechler having to "do the right thing."
In 1987, the FBI was investigating two sports agents, Norby Walters and Lloyd Bloom, who had ties to organized crime. Walters and Bloom had worked up a scam where they bribed blue-chip college football players to sign post-dated, secret, agency contracts while they were still eligible to play college football – a clear violation of NCAA rules. Ultimately some of the players balked, threats were made by Walters and Bloom, and the whole thing fell apart.
Players who had signed the contracts were identified. They were all star players on prominent college teams. Two of the players were on Bo’s 1986 Michigan team.
When Bo found out, he was livid. He called one of the players, Garland Rivers, an All-American DB, into the office and had Rivers tell him the whole story.
Then Bo called me.
When I got to Bo’s office, Bo told Rivers “Tell this FBI agent everything about your relationship with Norby Walters.” Bo could have distanced himself and Michigan from the investigation.
Michigan would have been just one of many major football programs victimized by Walters and Bloom. But that wasn’t Bo. Damage control doesn’t mean hiding from the truth. It means taking responsibility for your actions and trying to rectify the mistakes.
firstdown 11-11-2011, 11:30 AM Now the question is will Penn State remove Joe Pa statue?
NC_Skins 11-11-2011, 02:11 PM Penn State Riots - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 11/10/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/penn-state-riots)
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