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SmootSmack 11-18-2013, 04:42 PM Ahhhh. What about the larger question of the Skins attracting coaching talent? Is it a desired job/market?
Yes, definitely. But part of that is because of the boatloads of money a HC knows he could get here
Chico23231 11-18-2013, 04:45 PM Ahhhh. What about the larger question of the Skins attracting coaching talent? Is it a desired job/market?
I think the division is weak, you have talent at the QB spot, and an owner willing to max out the cap...also the best fans in the country. What other reason do you need?
mbedner3420 11-18-2013, 04:51 PM Yes, definitely. But part of that is because of the boatloads of money a HC knows he could get here
Which is why I hope we only contract a hungry young and up and comer.
I think we'll also have one of the more talented rosters available among those teams looking for a HC, which should also help coax someone decent.
skinsguy 11-18-2013, 04:54 PM I think knowing that this team has a franchise quarterback, that will make the head coaching position very attractive to any candidate.
skinsfan69 11-18-2013, 05:03 PM How hard is it not to imagine Steve Spurrier?
I suppose, now, it's probably inevitable that the Redskins will be rolling with a new coaching staff next year. My only word of caution on that is the "anybody but Shanahan is better" approach is NOT the way to go. Because, just anybody isn't a better option than Mike Shanahan. No matter how this season ends (and it looks to end badly) I maintain my admiration for the good things/the right things that Mike Shanahan has done for this team. The bottom line is, I realize, wins and loses.
With that said, if what Smootsmack has said is what's happening in terms of the front office, then let the new GM pick the head coach and let that head coach pick his coordinators and assistant coaches. I don't personally have a favorite in terms of head coaching candidates, but I do have traits/personalities/work ethics that need to be a must if he is to succeed in Washington.
The new head coach is going to have to be a disciplinarian, first and foremost. It is not acceptable to bring in a "bright offensive mind" that has no idea how to establish discipline. I'd argue that it's pretty easy to find a bright offensive mind - but none of it works without discipline.
Secondly, the coach needs to have a work ethic that is common to what we saw when Joe Gibbs coached this team in the 80's. Someone who's willing to live, eat, and breathe Redskins football. Someone who is willing to put in the hours it takes to make this team a winner. If he's not willing to stay (and live) at Redskins Park until the wee hours of the morning, I don't want him in Washington.
Lastly, the coach needs to have an eye of talent. It's not always the GM (alone) that brings in the players - the coaches have say as well. This new coach will need to work closely with the GM to bring in exactly what he needs. It can't simply be "we bring in the players, you coach them" approach. That doesn't work.
The next six weeks will be interesting.
Yeah we see how that "disciplinarian" approach is working for Tampa Bay. lol. The entire building in TB hates the guy. That hardass shit doesn't work in today's NFL.
Second, as I said before. All the crap about sleeping in the office is pure overrated BS. So you're saying if the new coach isn't willing to stay at the park until 3am you don't want him?? LOL. That statement is laughable and stupid. It doesn't even deserve a comeback. Glad you're not running the team.
As for Ritchie...his entire staff on the defensive side of the ball was usually out of the Park by 7pm or 8pm. This was confirmed by a PR person that I knew that worked for the Redskins back in 92-94. During that time I was a bar manager ( in my mid 20's) and we had a show that booked Redskins every Monday during the season. Ray Brown was one of nicest guys you'd ever want to meet....so was Andre Collins. Gibbs and the guys on offense would stay til.."the wee hours" of the morning"...as you like to put it.
Both sides of the ball were successful during that time period. My point is...it doesn't take coaches sleeping at Redskins Park to win.
The Goat 11-18-2013, 05:06 PM I think the division is weak, you have talent at the QB spot, and an owner willing to max out the cap...also the best fans in the country. What other reason do you need?
All that. And more.
We're talented at QB, RB (x2), FB, LT, WR (need more), and TE on offense. On defense I think we're nearly complete along the front 7, with an improved scheme and defensive coach. I think we have two starting corners in Hall and Amerson. I think we have a bunch of marginal guys at safety, with the hope Rambo develops into a starter.
We need depth everywhere but QB, RB and TE though. There's work to be done.
And DC is an awesome market. One of my fav cities in America and obviously a great football tradition.
And our owner WILL spend his money to improve the team.
What we need is a much improved coaching staff and talent influx to leverage the next off-season.
punch it in 11-18-2013, 05:28 PM I agree. Listening to that press conference yesterday, he just seemed like he was done. Sad really, I was hoping he'd get a chance to turn it around. Evidently, he's just not the right person for the job. I'm glad he brought us to a point of respectability, but it's time for a divorce.
Your idea of respectability and my idea of respectability are two totally different things.
CrustyRedskin 11-18-2013, 05:46 PM Coach Red Beaulieu and his whole staff.
SolidSnake84 11-18-2013, 06:01 PM I think knowing that this team has a franchise quarterback, that will make the head coaching position very attractive to any candidate.
In the interest of fairness is it really a set, for sure, done deal type thing that RG3 is TRULY a Franchise QB?
Of games i've watched, there are certainly days where he looks like that and more. But there are also lots of games where he is Jason Campbell-esque, maybe actually a little worse.
Wouldn't it be fairer to try and give RG3 another analysis after one more year and see if he regresses further next season?
He looked absolutely like garbage the entire eagles game until the 4th quarter, when the eagles fell asleep and our offense suddenly came alive.
Don't get me wrong. I like RG3 and I think he is a step in the right direction, but i remember people were saying the same stuff about Jason Campbell. We hung on WAYYY too long with Campbell after it became clear he wasn't the answer. I hope the same mistake is not made again, that could cost us valuable building years....
punch it in 11-18-2013, 06:05 PM Coach Red Beaulieu and his whole staff.
Perfect
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