Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

Actually......we havent kept a good QB since I have been watching the team. In fact by stats ....JC was the closest thing to a long term QB we have had. That is just a cursory look at TD/ Int, Yards and Comp%

Rypien inconsistant at best - he only really had two good seasons out of six (not consecutive)

Williams, as much as I liked him, he was at the end of his career here.

Johnson was good his first year and average (to bad) his second.


Joey T was the last guy who put together 3 good seasons - but that was it...just three.

This is the site I usedMark Rypien NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RypiMa00.htm)

I think what I am saying is we are due!

How many SBs do those guys have under Shanny? Also they played their best ball because of the system and how frigging stacked Denver was during that period in the weakest division in the NFL. ALso, look at the quality of guys you have mentioned. All from big schools, so they already had oodles of talent to begin with. Not saying Shanny isn't a QB developer Matty, just saying I don't think he is a guru. His system helps QBs to succeed, but the QBs he had, already had the tools. Now if he had won another SB or two, say with Plummer and was a serious contender for others, then I would go along with you and believe he was a "guru", but to me he just has a good system that is QB friendly.

I think their lack of SB's had a lot more to do with other parts of their team not being up to snuff. Sure none of those QB's were all world but you can't deny what they did under Shanahan.

At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

I honestly could see 5 returning next year

At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

The Titans are in a terrible QB situation and could prob use McNabb...other than that ur pretty much correct. Honestly the Redskins and McNabb could really help each other by staying put for one more year. Bu egos will get in the way.

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At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

As you indicate, those teams won't offer huge expensive multiyear deals. But I think both of those teams would not mind paying $$$ for a vet QB as a tutor for a year or two. So it depends on how deals were structured. A deal which they can get out of after a year or two (like the way we signed DMac last year) may be tolerable to both the team and to DMac.

So let's say JBeck is our QB next season, what's the over/under on wins? In your own opinions .

So let's say JBeck is our QB next season, what's the over/under on wins? In your own opinions .

If Beck becomes a surprise success you're looking at 10-11 wins. If Beck is who we thought he was you're looking at 7-8 wins. Either way I expect this team to improve over the 6 wins of a year ago with a better running game and a much improved defense.

And put it this way they were able to get 5 wins with McNabb playing like Chad Henne.

As you indicate, those teams won't offer huge expensive multiyear deals. But I think both of those teams would not mind paying $$$ for a vet QB as a tutor for a year or two. So it depends on how deals were structured. A deal which they can get out of after a year or two (like the way we signed DMac last year) may be tolerable to both the team and to DMac.

After playing us last year I can't understand why either would want McNabb. Especially the Titans. McNabb had all day to throw that game yet still came close to throwing the game with his usual 3rd down ground balls, a forced Int after 7 seconds untouched, and an errant throw in OT that easily could have been an Interception.

I still think we are a 9 win team this year TOPS..

Although, we could always surprise people and pull out a KC year with alot of young ones starting.

I wouldn't be shocked if Moss was gone, and Cook was starting in Rabach spot.

If Beck becomes a surprise success you're looking at 10-11 wins. If Beck is who we thought he was you're looking at 7-8 wins. Either way I expect this team to improve over the 6 wins of a year ago with a better running game and a much improved defense.

And put it this way they were able to get 5 wins with McNabb playing like Chad Henne.



After playing us last year I can't understand why either would want McNabb. Especially the Titans. McNabb had all day to throw that game yet still came close to throwing the game with his usual 3rd down ground balls, a forced Int after 7 seconds untouched, and an errant throw in OT that easily could have been an Interception.

I agree that DMac looked bad last year. But under that reasoning no one will give DMac a job and that seems unlikely. Someone will want him at least for his QB-tutoring brain and will overlook last year as an apparent aberration.