Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

I don't know that it's a strong statement, really. McNabb is basically out the door and technically Rex Grossman isn't on the team. I mean he is, but once the lockout is lifted he's a free agent. Though I fully expect he'll return. By process of elimination, Beck is atop the depth chart right now.

SS what turns u off of Johnny B? Other than he hasnt done much more than us in the NFL?

SS what turns u off of Johnny B? Other than he hasnt done much more than us in the NFL?

Well, from what I've seen of him the past four years he strikes me as someone who totally knows what he should do but has difficulty executing it. When I watch him play, I sense the game is moving just a bit too fast for him.

If he was 26-27 years old I have a bit more patience with him, not sure i can at 30 years old.

Like I said, if he's our guy I fully hope I'm wrong and that he dominates but I don't believe he'll be anything more then average.

I get disgusted looking at our last decade of stats

Its enough to make you vomit alright.

Well, from what I've seen of him the past four years he strikes me as someone who totally knows what he should do but has difficulty executing it. When I watch him play, I sense the game is moving just a bit too fast for him.

If he was 26-27 years old I have a bit more patience with him, not sure i can at 30 years old.

Like I said, if he's our guy I fully hope I'm wrong and that he dominates but I don't believe he'll be anything more then average.

This is all the evidence I need. You hate old people and Mormons. Congrads Smoot, you've finally been caught red handed for the hate mongering meanie, errr bigot, that you are!

You are using the "Pro-bowl" as your proof he's good?

Not that I'm agreeing necessarily with you anti-VY stance, but I do agree that Redskin fans especially should see how much of a crock the Pro Bowl can be.

Anyway at the very least he does win games, even if they're mostly against cup cakes, and he does have the physical tools. I think with us the perfect situation right now is a two year contract where he learns for most of year 1, and if things go to hell again get a Grossman like tryout near the end.

I will post a video within the next few days Beck throwing against Arizona and New York during the Preseason and will further attempt to get him throwing against Atlanta during the 09 Preseason. However for now I'm just going to focus on the Jets and Cardinals.

Not that I'm agreeing necessarily with you anti-VY stance, but I do agree that Redskin fans especially should see how much of a crock the Pro Bowl can be.

Anyway at the very least he does win games, even if they're mostly against cup cakes, and he does have the physical tools. I think with us the perfect situation right now is a two year contract where he learns for most of year 1, and if things go to hell again get a Grossman like tryout near the end.

I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting

I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting

In watching him in the preseason games (which I'll post video of within the next few days) he has great accuracy on short quick throws. His deep balls on the other hand worry me. Part of me thinks that it's more from a lack of experience with the offense at the time he was playing, at least I hope thats what it was.

However the good news is no more dirt balls, as Theisman said during the preseason he has a quick fluid release and likes to get the ball out of his hands, which will help that high sack total we've been dealing with the past few years. Assuming he starts of course.

I think the main thing to look out for is how well Beck adjust to downfield passing plays in our offense. He has the arm, now it's more of a case of knowing where everyone is as that seemed to be the root of the majority of his mistakes during preseason. At the very least he remains an intriguing option in my eyes, and in a year like this why not?

On a side note I'm starting to think the team should strongly, STRONGLY, consider starting Erik Cook at Center. Might be playing against the Jets second stringers but he's not getting pushed back into the pocket. Plus it looks cool having a tall Center when they walk up to the line :FIREdevil

Side Side note: Wonder if they bring back Bartel to compete for the 3rd string QB spot with the shortened offseason and all :D

I prefer to call mcnabbs passes bounce passes. Ah, may have to change my avatar.

I've seen where Young is great. I haven't seen it from Beck. Yes, Young is unpredictable and who knows how he'd handle the pressure here. But give me high-risk, high-reward over medium risk-medium reward anytime.

I'd like to see them re-sign Grossman and sign Young. Start Grossman until they feel Young is ready then drop Rex to #3 and start Young with Beck as the #2. Then next year let Rex walk and draft a young QB to be the #3 and QB of the future.

I mean honestly I don't want Beck in the equation, but I don't think he's going anywhere even if he's not starting

He would not be able to handle it here. No freakin' way. The guy is too immature and is soft as butter.