Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

So in fairness to Young, he'd need at least a year to get up to speed in a new O. Problem for the skins is, we don't have the stability the Eagles did when they brought Vick in..............
To play devil's advocate w/my own position; if VY was 2nd or 3rd string for a year, maybe he would come around in year two. I don't know if either side can be that patient.I'll be your devil's advocate because I think its plausible outcome:

Vince Young offense coordinator with the Titans was a former Mike Shanahan QB coach/assistant HC (and college roommate).

IF Mike chose to bring Vince young to Washington he (not Kyle)* could design an offense that would be very similar to Heimdinger's offense with the Titans, therefore making Vince's transition seamless.

BUT this would require a major paradigm shift in Kyle's/our offensive philosophy not to mention it would to my eye somewhat undermine his own OC/son.

I think Kyle and Heimerdinger's offenses aren't all that different. Both favor an aggressive passing game. Why the Titans didn't really execute the philosophy, other than the fact they had CJ, I don't really know.

I think Kyle and Heimerdinger's offenses aren't all that different. Both favor an aggressive passing game. Why the Titans didn't really execute the philosophy, other than the fact they had CJ, I don't really know.

I would speculate that their receiving corps was rather meh while both the elder and younger Shannys had a big playmaker on thiers. Brandon Marshall and Andre Johnson are better than what the Titans had/have.

You guys are trying to make me jump on the Beckwagon. But I can't...not yet

You do share sympathizers....

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I think Kyle and Heimerdinger's offenses aren't all that different. Both favor an aggressive passing game. Why the Titans didn't really execute the philosophy, other than the fact they had CJ, I don't really know.I think in this instance 'offense' is a too generic a term because all 3 coaches in essence run the same offense.

But, from a focus and playcalling perspective I think Kyle has clearly showed an unbalance toward the pass that I know Mike Shanahan doesn't share and I would suspect that Heimerdinger doesn't either.

Kyle either caused or was influenced in Houston to focus more on the straight drop back passing aspect of the offense and his offenses have been roughly 60-40 pass to run.(Mike Shanahan career is almost exactly 50-50)

Dinger's play calling style/offense seems much closer to Mike S. then to Kyle, run heavy or run balanced with a focus on run based movement action/play action passing.

I think Kyle philosophically is closer to Andy Ried/Josh McDaniels then he is to Mike Shanahan or run balanced playaction type coach.

Maybe I'm making to sublime I distinction but I think its clearly evident.

To simplify I think Kyle views the offense soley through the eyes of QBs and the WRs.
I think Mike and other run balanced coaches view the offense jointly through the eyes of the QB and the RB.
If that makes sense.

All of this is based on the assumption that Heimerdinger is like Mike Shanahan a run balanced play-action playcaller game planner.

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The way I look at John Beck is like this; either way, the Redskins are in relatively good position and are in position to dow whatever they want.

If John Beck plays poorly, the Redskins probably finish below .500. I don't think they get less than 6 wins just because of the ease of the schedule, but in all likelihood, they end up with another top ten pick, and that will put Mike back in position to draft his quarterback of the future from an altogether stronger quarterback class than there's been before.

If John Beck is able to pilot the offense to an 8-8 season or 9-7, then the Redskins are still in good position to get their quarterback of the future, and you have a guy who can play for another 2-3 seasons, until the rookie is ready, and maybe another season in the system would mean Beck improves. Then you have two viable quarterback options, which is some much needed long term planning.

And if Beck pulls off a miracle and is a Pro Bowl caliber guy, Mike Shanahan looks like an absolute genius, the Redskins front office is vindicated, and all of us have one less thing to worry about.

It's kind of a win-win-win.

The way I look at John Beck is like this; either way, the Redskins are in relatively good position and are in position to dow whatever they want.

If John Beck plays poorly, the Redskins probably finish below .500. I don't think they get less than 6 wins just because of the ease of the schedule, but in all likelihood, they end up with another top ten pick, and that will put Mike back in position to draft his quarterback of the future from an altogether stronger quarterback class than there's been before.

If John Beck is able to pilot the offense to an 8-8 season or 9-7, then the Redskins are still in good position to get their quarterback of the future, and you have a guy who can play for another 2-3 seasons, until the rookie is ready, and maybe another season in the system would mean Beck improves. Then you have two viable quarterback options, which is some much needed long term planning.

And if Beck pulls off a miracle and is a Pro Bowl caliber guy, Mike Shanahan looks like an absolute genius, the Redskins front office is vindicated, and all of us have one less thing to worry about.

It's kind of a win-win-win.

I agree with you except for the first part:If John Beck fails.
If they choose John Beck as the starter after passing on every QB in the draft, getting rid of McNabb and not bringing in a FA QB and he fails I think the Shanahan's are gonna be on shaky footing and rightfully so.

It means they chose the wrong QB/failed to create a successful environment for a QB 2 years in a row.

It means 2 wasted seasons.

I don't think Dan Snyder is so quick to fire him though. I think he has the same level of respect for him that he had for Joe Gibbs. So many people think that the Redskins are just going to bomb the season anyway (1-15 to 4-12 season predictions and a top three draft pick abound) I'm not sure the media scrutinty would be that intense.

And it's not a wasted season. We get a bunch of young guys valuable playing time, and I thin despite it all we do improve. I think at least the defense will start to find it's way a little bit more.

To me, starting Beck is like if we drafted Blaine Gabbert and he didn't play well. It's the same level of scrutiny, the same "God the Redskins are stupid mentality" from the media at large. It's really no different than drafting and a rookie. Just Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Mallett would be a flashier name.

I don't think Dan Snyder is so quick to fire him though. I think he has the same level of respect for him that he had for Joe Gibbs. So many people think that the Redskins are just going to bomb the season anyway (1-15 to 4-12 season predictions and a top three draft pick abound) I'm not sure the media scrutinty would be that intense.

And it's not a wasted season. We get a bunch of young guys valuable playing time, and I thin despite it all we do improve. I think at least the defense will start to find it's way a little bit more.

To me, starting Beck is like if we drafted Blaine Gabbert and he didn't play well. It's the same level of scrutiny, the same "God the Redskins are stupid mentality" from the media at large. It's really no different than drafting and a rookie. Just Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Mallett would be a flashier name.
It depends on the moves we make via FA.
If we're aggresive in FA and make win now moves but the team fails=non competitive because of poor QB play then for me its a wasted season.

Starting Beck in many ways is better then drafting a rookie QB except that Beck is 30.