NLC1054
06-01-2011, 11:28 PM
Well yeah, he's thirty, but he's not, like, normal thirty. Remember, he went on a Mormon mission before coming back to play football at BYU. It's not like he's got a lot of miles on his body; he's essentially been warming the bench since 2008.
And even at age thirty, if he's good, that still gives us a good five years of stability, possibly more. Plenty of time to draft a suitable "he'll be here for 15 years" kind of guy.
And I think when Bruce Allen said the team would be aggressive in free agency, I think he meant that they would be aggressive in filling the holes they didn't fill. Pretty much any moves the Redskins make are going to be reported as "win now" moves, even if they're rebuilding.
I think mainly they go after offensive linemen, a nose tackle, and a corner. Hardly flashy positions, unless they sign Nnamdi, which I don't think they will.
Dirtbag59
06-01-2011, 11:42 PM
You guys I reds the wrods but they're so blurry. Howe do I stop the blurry.
30gut
06-02-2011, 02:16 AM
And even at age thirty, if he's good, that still gives us a good five years of stability, possibly more. Plenty of time to draft a suitable "he'll be here for 15 years" kind of guy.Who wants 5 years of stability if he's not the guy?
Pretty much any moves the Redskins make are going to be reported as "win now" moves, even if they're rebuilding.I don't care how moves are 'reported' if its a win now move its a win now move.
E.g. signing Nnamdi, Cullen Jenkins etc. Good players but both would be win now moves and there is nothing inherently wrong with win now moves coupled with re-building moves IF you actually win now while getting younger.
30gut
06-02-2011, 02:20 AM
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Here some throws that stood out to me from the Becks in the Cards preseason game:
@1:13 Arm strength throw, just talking skillset or physical ability not result; He over throws the double covered WR-but he uncorks a bomb from the 15 yd line to the opposing 32 yd line about a 63 yard throw in the air
@ 2:01 Climbs up in the pocket, then rips a 20 yard side arm pass on a line to Austin
@ 4:12 Nimble feet and quick execution on the bootleg, squares his shoulders and makes a good throw on the move to Austin
@ 6:00 Good velocity and accuracy on a quick 3-step slant to Devin Thomas
@ 6:56 From the hash to the sideline (in the air from the 27 yd line to the 44) not a long throw but good velocity
@ 7:11 Good touch on fade down (L) sideline
@ 7:26 Best throw of the day I thought-From the 18 yd line quick release/3/4 motin side arm fling on a rope on target to Austin down the hash to the 48; great throw (about a 30 yard throw in the air)
@ 7:40 ??? WTF Follows up a great throw with a terrible side arm throw off balance and off target
@ 8:00 Half-playaction fires a dart to Banks on the 12 yd square in/dig route
Well that what I saw-what did you guys see
Thoughts?
Monkeydad
06-02-2011, 11:55 AM
Who's that #80? He was dropping everything.
NLC1054
06-02-2011, 12:08 PM
Who's that #80? He was dropping everything.
Shay Hodge. Camp scrub.
Lots of people have been knocking the mysterious... - Burgundy Blog [On The Washington Redskins] (http://burgundyblog.com/post/6059358535/beck)
NLC1054
06-02-2011, 12:45 PM
I think a lot of the concerns about Beck's arm strength are unwarranted as is. Matt Schaub doesn't have the biggest arm and he operates that offense incredibly well. If he needs to push it down field he can, but the offense isn't as much about the big play as everyone thinks it is. It's more about precision and execution.
And there's some pretty good throws he made in preseason. He didn't complete the passes, but he showed that he had more than enough arm to make the big throws.
Dirtbag59
06-02-2011, 01:35 PM
I think a lot of the concerns about Beck's arm strength are unwarranted as is. Matt Schaub doesn't have the biggest arm and he operates that offense incredibly well. If he needs to push it down field he can, but the offense isn't as much about the big play as everyone thinks it is. It's more about precision and execution.
And there's some pretty good throws he made in preseason. He didn't complete the passes, but he showed that he had more than enough arm to make the big throws.
I think the real test will be how he does in the red zone and I personally think that his quick release and anticipation will allow him to be an upgrade over all our previous and current options.
Thats part of the reason average armed QB's make it in the NFL, because once that field is only 20 or 30 yards long that huge arm won't mean anything without a quick release and anticipation, seeing as how every QB in the league can throw a 20 or 30 yard pass.
In reviewing the season I saw way to many red zone attempts come up short. Part of fixing that will be getting more out of the running game but the passing game will also need to play a part in getting points on the board.
30gut
06-02-2011, 04:02 PM
I think Beck's lack of arm strength is more pereception then reality.
He had one of the strongest arms at the combine in his draft class as measured by radar gun, throwing the 20 yard comeback.
In reality the evidence kinda points to Beck having a strong arm/very strong arm then hit does to him having a weak arm/average arm.