Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

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I'm not even going to include the articles where there is talk that he isn't willing to put the time and dedication into his craft at the QB position. He was referred to as a guy who would be last to show up, and first to roll out. I've seen enough from this kid to know I don't want him within 1,000 miles of DC, unless he's playing against us.

Walking out on the team and teammates sealed the deal for me. We already have a guy like that. His name is Haynesworthless.

See, this is why I can't understand why anyone would want this loser here. Like I said before, if we were a solid winning organization then I'd be all for it. But coming off the AH mess why would they want to bring in this mentally weak, soft, crybaby that is lazy and fights with coaches. Screw that. I'd rather them go with noodle armed Beck and turnover prone Grossman and draft someone in 2012.

I just don't see it that way. Vick is/was always the better QB and was w/out quesation the most valuable player on Atl. Plus he was rushing for 1,000 yards. Do you know what kind of pressure that puts on a defense? He always had a quick compact release and had the potential to be a very good passer. I'd call VY kind of a poor man's Michael Vick pre Philly. I don't think we'll ever see VY with a 21td 6 int ratio and Vick did that in what....12 starts or so?

Not saying he's going to play like Vick... just that he has the potential to reinvent himself if he lands in the right situation and gets serious about being a pro.

Why go through the BS in signing the guy if he is a gamble and a waste of time and say miss out on a possible chance at Palmer, etc. We really needed to sign a QB in the first round. Kerrigan was a great pick, but moving him to OLB is a gamble in itself.

Did you hear Mike Brown say he was going to move Palmer? It's not going to happen.

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I just don't see it that way. Vick is/was always the better QB and was w/out quesation the most valuable player on Atl. Plus he was rushing for 1,000 yards. Do you know what kind of pressure that puts on a defense? He always had a quick compact release and had the potential to be a very good passer. I'd call VY kind of a poor man's Michael Vick pre Philly. I don't think we'll ever see VY with a 21td 6 int ratio and Vick did that in what....12 starts or so?Although I think Vince could work here; I think it would require a paradigm shift in Kyle's playcalling gameplanning style.

But, I agree with you and kinda bristle at the Vick comparison for 2 reasons.

From a physical/tangible stand point:

o Vick has a flawless throwing motion, he's always been one of the best throwers of the football in the game; Vince has a quircky 3/4 motion.

o Vick is a dynamic runner. Speed, vision, acceleration and toughness/willingness.
Vince is a good runner in his own right but Vick is on a different level.

Neither do I. For whatever reason CP's mechanics have broken down over the past few years, analysts point out his poor footwork as a reason for some of his struggles. #5 had the same kind of issues, we don't need to go down that road again.The dude used to have a sweet stroke, the human jugs machine.
Kemo Von Olhoffen sp? destroyed his knee, then the elbows problems came.
Pure speculation but I think having his knee wrecked like that made him a bit skittish in the pocket especially with people around his legs/feet.

Imo hasn't been the same since.

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Although I think Vince could work here; I think it would require a paradigm shift in Kyle's playcalling gameplanning style.

But, I agree with you and kinda bristle at the Vick comparison for 2 reasons.

From a physical/tangible stand point:

o Vick has a flawless throwing motion, he's always been one of the best throwers of the football in the game; Vince has a quircky 3/4 motion.

o Vick is a dynamic runner. Speed, vision, acceleration and toughness/willingness.
Vince is a good runner in his own right but Vick is on a different level.

I don't think anyone directly compared him to Vick, just that he could have a similar turnaround that Vick did if he sets his mind to it and has the right coaching.

Vick was a much much better QB in comparison to VY.

I don't think anyone directly compared him to Vick, just that he could have a similar turnaround that Vick did if he sets his mind to it and has the right coaching.

That makes sense, especially if you take into account that Vick had his breakout in year 2 w/the iggles. Prior to last season there was talk of him being traded. I think a lot of teams could've gotten him if they were willing to take the risk, but no one was banging on the door for him.

So in fairness to Young, he'd need at least a year to get up to speed in a new O. Problem for the skins is, we don't have the stability the Eagles did when they brought Vick in. The QB situation is unsettled & the McNabb trade makes it all the more imperative for Shanny not to fail on this one.

To play devil's advocate w/my own position; if VY was 2nd or 3rd string for a year, maybe he would come around in year two. I don't know if either side can be that patient.

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In watching that video Beck looks like he has a future in coaching. Actually find it kind of amusing that he projects the same sort of essence as the Elder Shanahan.