Son Of Man
05-19-2011, 03:31 PM
Why are people really hating on Beck? The guy was a highly rated talent that hasn't had a decent opportunity to play. This isn't like he's played 3 years and absolutely sucked, much like VY has. (or at least Jeff Fischer thinks so)
Rookie of the Year
Two Pro Bowls
30-17 career record as a starter
.....yeah, he sucks!!!
skinsfaninok
05-19-2011, 03:37 PM
Jason Reid said on SC that Beck is the guy no matter who is in camp.
SmootSmack
05-19-2011, 03:40 PM
Jason Reid said on SC that Beck is the guy no matter who is in camp.
Well he's the only guy who is signed but he's definitely not locked in as the starter for the season
skinsfaninok
05-19-2011, 04:14 PM
well he's the only guy who is signed but he's definitely not locked in as the starter for the season
v i n c e
y o u n g !!!
NC_Skins
05-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Can John Beck Lead The Redskins? - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6560306)
Schefter is buddies with Shanny so this is pretty strong statement here about Beck.
Dirtbag59
05-19-2011, 07:58 PM
v i n c e
y o u n g !!!
2 or 3 months at most to learn the offense. I feel like the best scenario for Young is bring him in for a two year contract. Tell him to expect to wait a year but also leave open the possibility of him starting by mid-season, especially if Grossman and/or Beck can't outperform 2010 McNabb which sadly isn't much of a challenge.
One thing though I can't believe that people are overlooking is how improved the defense is going to be. We have a Free Saftey, a Pass Rusher opposite Orakpo, and a big body at defense end to prevent teams from simply running away from Carriker. Bryant and Neild might not be the worlds greatest situation at Nose Tackle but it's hard to deny how much the defense improved when Bryant was inserted into the lineup during the last 3 or 4 weeks of the season.
Then you factor in the possible free agent signings of Franklin and Cullen Jenkins and the skies the limit for this defense. Also possible that they'll sign Nnadmi but after years in Oakland I think he simply wants to go to an established competitor.....with money.
Longtimefan
05-19-2011, 08:13 PM
Can John Beck Lead The Redskins? - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6560306)
Schefter is buddies with Shanny so this is pretty strong statement here about Beck.
Beck has not had the opportunity to learn many bad habits as an NFL QB. Maybe Shanahan can do for John Beck what he did for Jake Plummer. Plummer's winning percentage improved greatly his second year in Denver.
Shanahan/McNabb was a case of not being able to teach an old dog new tricks.
skinsfaninok
05-19-2011, 08:48 PM
I get disgusted looking at our last decade of stats
SmootSmack
05-19-2011, 08:48 PM
Can John Beck Lead The Redskins? - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6560306)
Schefter is buddies with Shanny so this is pretty strong statement here about Beck.
I don't know that it's a strong statement, really. McNabb is basically out the door and technically Rex Grossman isn't on the team. I mean he is, but once the lockout is lifted he's a free agent. Though I fully expect he'll return. By process of elimination, Beck is atop the depth chart right now.
NC_Skins
05-19-2011, 08:51 PM
Rookie of the Year
Two Pro Bowls
30-17 career record as a starter
.....yeah, he sucks!!!
You are using the "Pro-bowl" as your proof he's good?
NFL Stats: by Player Position (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=0011&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&season=2009&seasonType=REG&experience=null&tabSeq=1&qualified=true&Submit=Go)
I challenge you to look through the years starting with 2006 and see where he ranks (in AFC alone) in terms of QB. He's not even remotely close to the other QBs. Hell, Garrard is a better QB than Young. The only way he got into the Pro-Bowl is if Brady, Rivers, Manning, Palmer, Garrard, etc decline the Pro-bowl invite. As far as that record goes, sure that had nothing to do with a top notch defense and a guy who rushes for 2,000 yards. Nope. Fischer nor Chow wanted to draft Young at the time. You can thank Bud Adams for that fiasco.
Also, that Rookie of the Year crap was a sham.
51.5 completion %, 12 TDs, 13 Ints, 2199 yards, 66.7 QB rating
....compared to this rookies numbers
941 yards rushing, 5.7 avg, 15 TDs, 46 receptions, 436 yards receiving
Now who do you think deserved Rookie of the Year? I"m going with Maurice Jones Drew. Stop buying the smoke they are blowing up your ass. It's all hype.