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Lotus 11-09-2011, 11:28 PM Good. When Paterno said in his statement that the Board of Trustees should “not spend a single minute discussing my status” I was pretty appalled. I mean that's a slap in the face to the Board. And what right does he have? If I was in his situation I couldn't go to my bosses and say "You know what, don't worry about me. I'm just going to go ahead and do my thing and leave when I'm ready to leave" Just doesn't and shouldn't work that way.
Marcellus Wiley said it best. How could the NCAA not allow Dez Bryant to play another game because he had dinner with Deion Sanders yet Joe Paterno could keep coaching until he decides he doesn't want to anymore.
Sorry, a legacy is ruined, especially so late in his life (kind of reminds me a bit of Helen Thomas' situation), but he had 10 years to do something about it. And he didn't. So he ruined his own legacy
And Sandusky. I mean it totally baffles me how a grown adult could even think of doing the things he did to those kids. And then to actually do them. I feel terrible for those poor kids. The grand jury report is unfortunately very graphic. And if you're mad about the situation without reading it, you'd be livid if you did
Yeah, when I heard JoePa say that, I thought, "Are you for real? You are going to steer the Board of Trustees into not talking about this?" Maybe he's just going senile but he is on another planet and not a very good one.
Dirtbag59 11-10-2011, 12:34 AM schadjoe Joe Schad
Paterno is said to have been told of fondling, touching or horseplay but not sodomy or rape
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itvnetop 11-10-2011, 02:06 AM Anyone catch the streets of State College? This student body reaction is scary. It's like the entire population is in a collective uproar over the firing... the firing of a pedophile enabler. You could throw this into a sociology intro textbook, under the Groupthink chapter. The defiant Penn State chants are eerily similar to those of a cult. I'm baffled as to how an entire community can actually muster up a movement in support of JoePa.
sandtrapjack 11-10-2011, 06:23 AM I want to volunteer for a Sandusky suicide watch.
" Hey Jerry, I'm going for a cup of coffee. Here, hold my gun for me while I'm gone."
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mlmdub130 11-10-2011, 07:55 AM Anyone catch the streets of State College? This student body reaction is scary. It's like the entire population is in a collective uproar over the firing... the firing of a pedophile enabler. You could throw this into a sociology intro textbook, under the Groupthink chapter. The defiant Penn State chants are eerily similar to those of a cult. I'm baffled as to how an entire community can actually muster up a movement in support of JoePa.
it's insane, the only thing i can think is that it is mostly all young kids, alot of them probably under 20. i hope they are just unable to see the situation as a whole and would like to think that no one would ever support someone who enabled such a terrible thing to continue on under his watch. cause at the end of the day paterno knew about two seperate incidents and sandusky was still allowed on campus and with young chilidren, unexcusable.
ArtMonkDrillz 11-10-2011, 08:11 AM Anyone catch the streets of State College? This student body reaction is scary. It's like the entire population is in a collective uproar over the firing... the firing of a pedophile enabler. You could throw this into a sociology intro textbook, under the Groupthink chapter. The defiant Penn State chants are eerily similar to those of a cult. I'm baffled as to how an entire community can actually muster up a movement in support of JoePa.Coincidentally, I think this is yet ANOTHER bad situation, although much lower down the scale, that JoePa could have prevented had he acted differently and with more forethought.
The writing was on the wall, he should have 'gracefully' stepped aside effective immediately. Since he chose to retire at the end of the season he forced the board's hand and had to be fired, which rallied the students even more.
mredskins 11-10-2011, 08:30 AM Joe and the students that support him are just lost or refusing to realize he made a big error by not reporting this.
JoePa will cling to the few cult members that hang outside his house and still feel like he justified but the rest of the nation is shaking their heads at him.
Paterno Talks To Crowd - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7215017)
The guy needs to ride off into the sun set and let the coals cool; if he keeps talking to folks like this he is going to say something really dumb that may wind him up in more trouble.
NC_Skins 11-10-2011, 08:35 AM NC Skins letter worked. JoePa fired as Penn State head coach. Def. Coord. Tom Bradley named interim head coach.
I'd like to think my (and mooby's) letter worked, but it probably had more to do with every person(including press) outside of Penn State calling for him to be ousted.
Good. When Paterno said in his statement that the Board of Trustees should “not spend a single minute discussing my status” I was pretty appalled. I mean that's a slap in the face to the Board. And what right does he have? If I was in his situation I couldn't go to my bosses and say "You know what, don't worry about me. I'm just going to go ahead and do my thing and leave when I'm ready to leave" Just doesn't and shouldn't work that way.
Marcellus Wiley said it best. How could the NCAA not allow Dez Bryant to play another game because he had dinner with Deion Sanders yet Joe Paterno could keep coaching until he decides he doesn't want to anymore.
Sorry, a legacy is ruined, especially so late in his life (kind of reminds me a bit of Helen Thomas' situation), but he had 10 years to do something about it. And he didn't. So he ruined his own legacy
And Sandusky. I mean it totally baffles me how a grown adult could even think of doing the things he did to those kids. And then to actually do them. I feel terrible for those poor kids. The grand jury report is unfortunately very graphic. And if you're mad about the situation without reading it, you'd be livid if you did
My thoughts exactly Smoot. The sheer arrogance of this guy baffled me. In some of the video's the show this interview with him talking about how the President and the AD came to him after the 2004 season and asked him to step down. He said in that interview that he was going to retire on his own terms and when he wanted to. Yeah, this asshole thought he was bigger than the institution. I'm glad I haven't read that grand jury report because I know how I'm going to be and I rather not put myself in that mood.
SmootSmack 11-10-2011, 08:44 AM I don't know how much of it is arrogance or just ignorance. Like he has no clue the severity of what's going on?
And what's with him being all pissy about getting fired via phone. He announced his retirment via press release. And as far as I know he didn't notify the BOT beforehand
JoeRedskin 11-10-2011, 09:01 AM I don't know how much of it is arrogance or just ignorance. Like he has no clue the severity of what's going on?
And what's with him being all pissy about getting fired via phone. He announced his retirment via press release. And as far as I know he didn't notify the BOT beforehand
Which only bolsters the arrogance argument - "I don't need to inform the people entrusted with running the school what I am doing, I'll just do it 'cause I know what's best" contrasted with "How dare they not speak to me in person! I deserve better b/c of everything I've done."
I'll give you it's a clueless arrogance - i.e. he doesn't think he's being arrogant, he's thinks he's just doing what's best for the school.
And I'm with you AMD - He should never have put the BOT in this position. He should've manned up and said something to the effect of "Doesn't matter what I thought at the time, ultimately, the buck stops here and, as an example to our students, I am resigning." But noooooo .....
I've never really cared one way or another for Paterno. I know he's an icon but I guess I never got it and have thought he was mostly running on fumes since sometime in the mid-2000's. What little respect I had for him is so far gone at this point.
Jail time all around folks.
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