The never ending Jason Campbell player haters ballSolidSnake84 09-21-2010, 10:26 AM Maybe the facts are in, and Campbell is indeed that much of a bust. But still, I don't think that J. Russell is better than Campbell. I consider them about equal, when it comes to the raiders. 30gut 09-21-2010, 10:29 AM Q: Should Campbell have recognized the Raiders were in the wrong formation on fourth-and-1 and called a time out? Cable: Yeah, absolutely. In the heat of the battle, whatever it is, we didn’t get it done. I tried to fix it, but (the officials) weren’t paying attention to us. This is what I was talking about when I bashed him. Gotta be better than that. wait a second. a coach has his team in the wrong formation and its the QB's fault? So every time a team has an illegal formation its the QBs fault? By that token there are a lot of QBs that make that same mistake every Sunday. Didn't we have an illegal formation in week 1? Should McNabb get bashed? Are NFL Head Coaches Benching Black QBs Faster Than White QBs? : Zennie Abraham : City Brights If i said that historically a black QB gets pulled faster then a white QB it would be correct statement. Try and remove emotion and take a look Sanchez 5 picks in 1 game not pulled, Flacco 4 picks 1 game not pulled, Carson Palmer 4 picks, Jake Delhomme, Romo 4-5? etc need i continue? McNabb was pulled after 2 pick 2 years ago for Kolb who came in and threw 2 picks 1 a pick 6. Campbell has gotten the quick hook twice both times on bad teams with coaches that were under the gun. Tarvaris Jackson had the rug yanked out from under him by another insecure coach and came back at the end of the year to bail that sorry coach's team out and send them to the playoffs 2 years ago. Vince Young who basically saved the Titans season last year and has made several late game comebacks yanked. We can all be objective and make an observation. It doesn't mean that there's neccesarily a cause and effect relationship. You can make the observation and leave it at that. If find it strange that someone would make a comment and meet that kind of negative reaction. The reaction to the statement is actually part of the problem if people create an uncomfortable environement for an opinion then people are less likely to state that opinion. GTripp0012 09-21-2010, 10:43 AM Give Bruce Gradkowski some credit. When we replaced Campbell down two points at half at home against a vastly inferior team last year (Chiefs), Todd Collins came in and actually assisted the Chiefs in winning the game. Gradkowski at least took care of his business and got Campbell the "W", and made Tom Cable's decision look rational and not at all desperate. The Raiders have a better QB situation this year than we did last year. MTK 09-21-2010, 10:43 AM Russell and Campbell aren't even in the same ballpark. Sorry, not even close. You're talking about one of the biggest busts in NFL history, right behind Ryan Leaf, and comparing him to a middle of the road guy in JC. It just doesn't add up no matter how you look at it. aceinthehouse 09-21-2010, 10:44 AM The excuses for Campbell are truly overwhelming... It's O-line.. It's the Running game It's the WR's It's the formations It's the coach It's the front office It's the defense It's the fans it's the stadium It's the way he was brought up Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe..... JUST maybe... Campbell is horrible? Seriously...Did Heath Shuler or Patrick Ramsey get the opportunites that this non-leading loser get? At least Ramsey has the actual excuse of playing behind a non-blocking Fun and Gun offense with absolutely no protection,but the fans decided he sucked and Ramsey never proved anyone wrong... But noooooooooooo...NOT JC... The only person I've ever seen get excused, for every screwup they ever made,is our very own president... Only difference is...One set a franchise back for 5 years The other has ruined a Country BTW...I love having McNabb!!:food-smil He's a great player and person... (This was said just in case an Obamabot Liberal threw out the racist or bigot card at me) lol You know how they can be...lol GTripp0012 09-21-2010, 10:47 AM The excuses for Campbell are truly overwhelming... It's O-line.. It's the Running game It's the WR's It's the formations It's the coach It's the front office It's the defense It's the fans it's the stadium It's the way he was brought up Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe..... JUST maybe... Campbell is horrible? Seriously...Did Heath Shuler or Patrick Ramsey get the opportunites that this non-leading loser get? At least Ramsey has the actual excuse of playing behind a non-blocking Fun and Gun offense with absolutely no protection,but the fans decided he sucked and Ramsey never proved anyone wrong... But noooooooooooo...NOT JC... The only person I've ever seen get excused, for every screwup they ever made,is our very own president... Only difference is...One set a franchise back for 5 years The other has ruined a CountryAren't you the excuse guy who started that thread about the receivers not sucking, it was just the quarterback play? Man up, dude. Hold yourself accountable. aceinthehouse 09-21-2010, 10:52 AM Aren't you the excuse guy who started that thread about the receivers not sucking, it was just the quarterback play? Man up, dude. Hold yourself accountable. You're crazy...I LOVE having mcNabb dude!! I started a thread saying that the WR's are fine,but I am cool with an upgrade as well... (LOLOL..As I was Proved on Sunday my friend):food-smil have some crow...lol But i still would like Jackson... QB is awesome now... but campbell sucks... is this clear for ya Tripp? over the mountain 09-21-2010, 10:55 AM ace - plenty of us questioned JC during his time here, repeatedly for about 2 straight years. for every "apologist" there was a "doubter". its just that now, at least for me, whats the point of repeating what we've been arguing about for so long? JC is a raider, mcnabb is our guy. aceinthehouse 09-21-2010, 10:57 AM ace - plenty of us questioned JC during his time here, repeatedly for about 2 straight years. for every "apologist" there was a "doubter". its just that now, at least for me, whats the point of repeating what we've been arguing about for so long? JC is a raider, mcnabb is our guy. Well said! aceinthehouse 09-21-2010, 11:01 AM And btw tripp....why would I say we are going 14-2 if I thought our current QB play is bad? Doesn't make since does it bud? I said and started thread saying that our current WR core is not as bad as everyone made it out to be.... That we were fine there...(luckily,I was proven right, this last Sunday in a loss) That our QB play FROM LAST SEASON made them worse than they really were... OK? HOWEVER..having said that... I still am on board for UPGRADING with Jackson and think it would be a good idea to have an end zone target for the fades and jump balls... | |
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