The never ending Jason Campbell player haters ball

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MonkFan4Life
09-21-2010, 11:18 AM
wait a second.
a coach has his team in the wrong formation and its the QB's fault?
So every time a team has an illegal formation its the QBs fault?
By that token there are a lot of QBs that make that same mistake every Sunday.
Didn't we have an illegal formation in week 1?
Should McNabb get bashed?

Are NFL Head Coaches Benching Black QBs Faster Than White QBs? : Zennie Abraham : City Brights

If i said that historically a black QB gets pulled faster then a white QB it would be correct statement.
Try and remove emotion and take a look Sanchez 5 picks in 1 game not pulled, Flacco 4 picks 1 game not pulled, Carson Palmer 4 picks, Jake Delhomme, Romo 4-5? etc need i continue?

McNabb was pulled after 2 pick 2 years ago for Kolb who came in and threw 2 picks 1 a pick 6.
Campbell has gotten the quick hook twice both times on bad teams with coaches that were under the gun.
Tarvaris Jackson had the rug yanked out from under him by another insecure coach and came back at the end of the year to bail that sorry coach's team out and send them to the playoffs 2 years ago.
Vince Young who basically saved the Titans season last year and has made several late game comebacks yanked.

We can all be objective and make an observation.
It doesn't mean that there's neccesarily a cause and effect relationship.
You can make the observation and leave it at that.
If find it strange that someone would make a comment and meet that kind of negative reaction.
The reaction to the statement is actually part of the problem if people create an uncomfortable environement for an opinion then people are less likely to state that opinion.

Really 30gut ? Really ? How many times have coaches or fellow players taken the blame for Jason ****ing up ? A lot, believe that. Slim if he sees it he can CALL AN AUDIBLE !!!!!

I'm black, I've been profiled, felt the sting of racism and all that you can't pull that the man is holding the brotha down bullshit. Not in this instance. He's just sorry IMO. Take that play away, and I'm pretty sure they would've lost that game had he stayed under center. Cable knew it, the team knew it. THAT is why you will see Jason on the bench, or standing there holding a clipboard. NOT because he's black, African American, Zulu, Wachutu, or just a guy from the south. Make Campbell a white guy and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't get so much sympathy. I'm just saying. This shouldn't be a race issue, it's a skill issue. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't drafted there so there is no loyalty and very little patience. He just lacks the skills to be an above average QB, if your team isn't full of Pro Bowlers that are the best at their position and can win on their own, they just need a guy to say "Hike" then he's not your guy.

SirClintonPortis
09-21-2010, 11:38 AM
wait a second.
a coach has his team in the wrong formation and its the QB's fault?
So every time a team has an illegal formation its the QBs fault?
By that token there are a lot of QBs that make that same mistake every Sunday.
Didn't we have an illegal formation in week 1?
Should McNabb get bashed?

Are NFL Head Coaches Benching Black QBs Faster Than White QBs? : Zennie Abraham : City Brights

If i said that historically a black QB gets pulled faster then a white QB it would be correct statement.
Try and remove emotion and take a look Sanchez 5 picks in 1 game not pulled, Flacco 4 picks 1 game not pulled, Carson Palmer 4 picks, Jake Delhomme, Romo 4-5? etc need i continue?

McNabb was pulled after 2 pick 2 years ago for Kolb who came in and threw 2 picks 1 a pick 6.
Campbell has gotten the quick hook twice both times on bad teams with coaches that were under the gun.
Tarvaris Jackson had the rug yanked out from under him by another insecure coach and came back at the end of the year to bail that sorry coach's team out and send them to the playoffs 2 years ago.
Vince Young who basically saved the Titans season last year and has made several late game comebacks yanked.

We can all be objective and make an observation.
It doesn't mean that there's neccesarily a cause and effect relationship.
You can make the observation and leave it at that.
If find it strange that someone would make a comment and meet that kind of negative reaction.
The reaction to the statement is actually part of the problem if people create an uncomfortable environement for an opinion then people are less likely to state that opinion.

Sanchez is Hispanic. A very fine one though. That said, Rex's dad really didn't give a crap about race, and it's likely Buddy passed it down...

MTK
09-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Give Bruce Gradkowski some credit. When we replaced Campbell down two points at half at home against a vastly inferior team last year (Chiefs), Todd Collins came in and actually assisted the Chiefs in winning the game. Gradkowski at least took care of his business and got Campbell the "W", and made Tom Cable's decision look rational and not at all desperate.

The Raiders have a better QB situation this year than we did last year.

If anything, the Raiders should be happy that it appears McFadden has learned how to be a NFL running back. He was running with power and finishing runs, I was like wow who is that guy? If he runs like that all year they might have a decent shot to be respectable.

SirClintonPortis
09-21-2010, 11:43 AM
I seriously would rather have J.Russell over Campbell...
I think Campbell sucks that bad!

As bad a Russell was...and he's REAL bad...he did win games last season.

I'm not sure Campbell could win a game for Oakland...
He was losing against the Rams before being pulled and Gradowski brought the team back...lol

I'm a firm believer,the Redskins won..."in spite" of Campbell last season.
I think we had enough talent to do so...specially on the defensive side.The statement about Russell vs. Campbell is moronic, to say the least. Seeing Russell last year against us, I think the following comparison is apt. If Campbell's a turtle in games, Russell is a sloth. JaVendingMachine is much worse than Campbell. NO ONE HAS PICKED HIM UP. Hell, even Ryan Leaf was given a second.

30gut
09-21-2010, 11:47 AM
Really 30gut ? Really ? How many times have coaches or fellow players taken the blame for Jason ****ing up ? A lot, believe that. Slim if he sees it he can CALL AN AUDIBLE !!!!!

I'm black, I've been profiled, felt the sting of racism and all that you can't pull that the man is holding the brotha down bullshit. Not in this instance. He's just sorry IMO. Take that play away, and I'm pretty sure they would've lost that game had he stayed under center. Cable knew it, the team knew it. THAT is why you will see Jason on the bench, or standing there holding a clipboard. NOT because he's black, African American, Zulu, Wachutu, or just a guy from the south. Make Campbell a white guy and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't get so much sympathy. I'm just saying. This shouldn't be a race issue, it's a skill issue. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't drafted there so there is no loyalty and very little patience. He just lacks the skills to be an above average QB, if your team isn't full of Pro Bowlers that are the best at their position and can win on their own, they just need a guy to say "Hike" then he's not your guy.

Did you even read my post?

Sanchez is Hispanic. A very fine one though. That said, Rex's dad really didn't give a crap about race, and it's likely Buddy passed it down...

Yes, Sanchez is hispanic thank you for the correction.
LoL, and um i guess he's fine? I guess he's a decent looking guy?
Look it, i'm not saying its outwardly about race.
But just take an honest look at the trends......it could simply be an abberation but it would appear that blacks have a shorter leash then non-black.

SolidSnake84
09-21-2010, 12:04 PM
Sanchez is Hispanic. A very fine one though. That said, Rex's dad really didn't give a crap about race, and it's likely Buddy passed it down...

Buddy Ryan was known to have racist tendencies. Just ask David Duerson. However, i think that was a reflection of that time in the NFL, and not so much Buddy Ryan the person.

Ruhskins
09-21-2010, 12:24 PM
My God, why is this thread still open?

aceinthehouse
09-21-2010, 12:29 PM
My God, why is this thread still open?

This thread will probably go away as soon as Campbell proves us all wrong....

Which means thewarpath.net will win the award of the longest continued thread on the web.....:lol::lol:

MonkFan4Life
09-21-2010, 12:40 PM
Did you even read my post?

Yeah and I also noticed how you pasted the article right after you said what you said. But let's get to your point. It wasn't an illegal formation just the wrong formation. QB's that know their playbook can make adjustments at the line. OR if you know what formation you are supposed to be in, you can call a timeout. Sort of like if you see that a blitz is coming you can change the protection, which is something else that he doesn't like to do.

You're right that many QB's make the mistakes that Jason makes, but the good ones have more positives. And until he finds a way to have more of those, then he'll ride the pine.

MonkFan4Life
09-21-2010, 12:41 PM
My God, why is this thread still open?

Because if he were playing well in Oakland there would be one about that, only it would be at about 30 pages by now.

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