The never ending Jason Campbell player haters ball

I freaking hate Tom Cable. He's a shit human being. Ironiccally thats why I don't want him to get fired. Obviously if he gets fired he still gets paid. I want him to have to deal with being a loosing coach for however long his contract is.

Dude, the article isn't trying to parse wether the QBs were playing poorly or not i think the author would concede that either all the QBs were playing poorly and should have been benched or that all the QBs were playing poorly and deserved to work their way through it. But, either way he's not claiming that the black QBs were playing well. The article is pointing out that it appears that when 2 QBs are playing poorly it appears that the black QB is more likely to get pulled.



Good point but if Flacco would have been pulled (which many silly Baltimore fan's wanted) he would have never had the chance to throw the TD to start the 2nd half.You missed my point.
I'll simplify: He did not say anything about how the QB was playing on the other plays of the game. The interceptions are only 1-4 plays in a game. How was the QB playing for all of the other plays? No analysis in that regard whatsoever.

I remember McNabb's debacle in Baltimore. He wasn't just throwing picks, he was in a "VERY COLD" mode throughout the half. Kolb comes in, leads them down the field, and then Reed picks him off in the end zone.

Campbell sounded like he was having a repeat of the Kansas City game here.

As for Flacco, I didn't watch the game, but some of his passes were thrown to Housh, who promptly dropped them and killed some of their drives.

More likely to be pulled within the small, but there is no "generic one-brained white establishment" here. It's Andy Reid, Jeff Fisher, and Tom Cable and whatever is going on in their heads vs. the other coaches.
Now Young's case is an interesting one, but I don't know if it's like pulling the goalie in blowout in hockey.

Campbell is no surprise, He's a Celeron Processor. He may have nice Ghz, but his lack of an L2 cache is glaringly obvious. He also needs bigger fans to cool him.

As for Vick, I think Reid has a fat ego and just wants his Mr. Cob to be the one, regardless.

As for Tarvaris, Childress was IN LOVE with the guy when he first drafted him. But Brett Favre PROVED he was miles ahead of him.

You missed my point.
I'll simplify: He did not say anything about how the QB was playing on the other plays of the game. The interceptions are only 1-4 plays in a game. How was the QB playing for all of the other plays? No analysis in that regard whatsoever.
I don't want to quible with you but if a QB throws 3-4-5 picks he's not playing well.
I don't think it needs much more analysis.
I'm not saying they got pulled because they're black and it was a willful decision based on race.
No.
What i'm saying is that if you objectively look at the scenarios net-net it would appear that if 2 QBs are having bad games that a black QB is more likely to get pulled.

I'm not trying to add anything more to it then that; i'm just looking at the raw data.

As for Tarvaris, Childress was IN LOVE with the guy when he first drafted him. But Brett Favre PROVED he was miles ahead of him.

You're getting the timeline mixed up.
Jackson was benched the year before Favre got there.
They Vikings had a rough few games and Jackson got benched.
I remember virtually everyone disagreed with the move ESPN/NFLN.
Brad Childress is the original 'master of panic'
Later on that season Jackson is back in the line-up and has the best 4 games of any QB in the league not named Manning and the Vikings go to the playoffs.

I don't want to quible with you but if a QB throws 3-4-5 picks he's not playing well.
I don't think it needs much more analysis.
I'm not saying they got pulled because they're black and it was a willful decision based on race.
No.
What i'm saying is that if you objectively look at the scenarios net-net it would appear that if 2 QBs are having bad games that a black QB is more likely to get pulled.

I'm not trying to add anything more to it then that; i'm just looking at the raw data.



You're getting the timeline mixed up.
Jackson was benched the year before Favre got there.
They Vikings had a rough few games and Jackson got benched.
I remember virtually everyone disagreed with the move ESPN/NFLN.
Brad Childress is the original 'master of panic'
Later on that season Jackson is back in the line-up and has the best 4 games of any QB in the league not named Manning and the Vikings go to the playoffs.I'll keep paragraphs extra short so you stop making these annoying inferences that do not satisfy Leibniz's Law.

In the aggregate, four interceptions mean a bad game. But it doesn't say anything CONCLUSIVE about the non-interception attempts. That's what someone who didn't watch game does not know.

Yes, it's probable the QB had many other bad plays, but if you didn't watch the game, you don't know. If you did watch the game, the you have to analyze their play more deeply. At least cover the "trends".

Stats are not "raw" data. It's a shorthand substitute for the real data that accounts for everything that happened. Data is "lost in transmission". Can you understand "lost in transmission"?

The official stats ONLY record the outcome of the plays, not the everything else that was going only. Stuff like whiffed blocks, bad routes, boneheaded throws are all LOST when they go to the stat sheet.

I know Jackson's situation. Everyone disagreed because they thought Favre's skills deteriorated the season prior and they were annoyed with his indecision. I also know that early that season, Jackson was strained mentally with off the field stuff and at the end of the season, that was behind him. To expect him to somehow play well WHILE IT WAS STILL GOING ON, is begging for the near-impossible.

But still, his damn perferomance was the primary reason he got his ass benched, and I'm pretty sure if I ever watched those games, I won't be giving high reviews of Jackson. The fact that the woke up after Ferrotte stepped in is more than enough to infer that Jackson's play was THAT BAD.

And btw, it's not like no white QBs have sucked soooo bad that they keep the position they're handed. Sure, the two(Leinart's first benching and Heath Shuler) I'm thinking of were replaced by white guys, but their replacements outperformed them by a mile.

LOL, sorry, but I would take Shaub in a heartbeat over DMac. Love DMac, but Schaub right now is the better QB.

I would rather take Andre Johnson and a running game to go along with McNabb.

yeah dude, don't count out mcnabb. how many conference championships has shaub been too? I know the man is a flat out studhorse, but don't deny that winning is contagious...and mcnabb is a winner. and he makes people win around him cause he's an excellent leader...wihch is what wash has needed for ... dare i say decades?

yeah dude, don't count out mcnabb. how many conference championships has shaub been too? I know the man is a flat out studhorse, but don't deny that winning is contagious...and mcnabb is a winner. and he makes people win around him cause he's an excellent leader...wihch is what wash has needed for ... dare i say decades?

Personally, I think it is a bit narrow minded to say who do you take between Schaub or McNabb. Honestly, right now the Texans are the better team, they have better weapons (AJ and a Foster), and a pretty good defense that compliments their talented offense. While McNabb shows he is still an elite QB (or a very good QB), obviously he wasn't able to completely carry the team.

yeah dude, don't count out mcnabb. how many conference championships has shaub been too? I know the man is a flat out studhorse, but don't deny that winning is contagious...and mcnabb is a winner. and he makes people win around him cause he's an excellent leader...wihch is what wash has needed for ... dare i say decades?I can safely deny that winning is contagious. You know what is contagious? This nasty cold I have. Can barely breathe.

Campbell is no surprise, He's a Celeron Processor. He may have nice Ghz, but his lack of an L2 cache is glaringly obvious. He also needs bigger fans to cool him.

GREAT analogy haha

In the aggregate, four interceptions mean a bad game. But it doesn't say anything CONCLUSIVE about the non-interception attempts. That's what someone who didn't watch game does not know.

Did you read my post or are you just being difficult.
Where did i say anything about wether the QBs play was conclusive?
Like i said in my previous post i don't want to quible about individual performances.
But it appears your intent on quibling over non-relevant issues.
Can you agree that net-net throwing 4 or more INTs would indicate a bad game?

Stats are not "raw" data. It's a shorthand substitute for the real data that accounts for everything that happened. Data is "lost in transmission". Can you understand "lost in transmission"?

Nice, classy posting style.
Its in keeping with someone that can't make their point understood and stoops to patronization.
There's no need to complicate the issue here.
Given poor QB play are black QBs getting benched/yanked quicker then there non-black counter parts?


I know Jackson's situation. Everyone disagreed because they thought Favre's skills deteriorated the season prior and they were annoyed with his indecision. I also know that early that season, Jackson was strained mentally with off the field stuff and at the end of the season, that was behind him. To expect him to somehow play well WHILE IT WAS STILL GOING ON, is begging for the near-impossible.

Well apparently you don't because Favre wasn't even on the team yet you keep refering to Favre.
Second what the heck are you talking about 'mentally strained' can you be more vague?

But still, his damn perferomance was the primary reason he got his ass benched, and I'm pretty sure if I ever watched those games, I won't be giving high reviews of Jackson.
Wait, you're talking the Vikings games but you didn't even watch them?
LoL, this is getting funny.

The fact that the woke up after Ferrotte stepped in is more than enough to infer that Jackson's play was THAT BAD
For someone posting in such a patronizing manner one would expect your own arguements/inferences to be logical.
For a psuedo-intellectual like yourself you should be above such an obvious logical fallacy.

And btw, it's not like no white QBs have sucked soooo bad that they keep the position they're handed. Sure, the two(Leinart's first benching and Heath Shuler) I'm thinking of were replaced by white guys, but their replacements outperformed them by a mile.

This is a strawman argument that has nothing to do with anything i posted.

HTTR!