Eight QBs and Where The Latest Rumors Have Them Going

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NC_Skins
02-20-2012, 01:28 PM
hmm.. Matt Flynn to Browns? Then I wonder what happens to their current QB

Holmgren has already said he was bringing in competition at the QB position. Bringing in Flynn doesn't change the status of McCoy, it would be competition for the starting position. Also, bringing in Flynn wouldn't make him the unquestioned starter, and that would probably be the case anywhere he went.

skinsfan69
02-20-2012, 02:36 PM
I have a fourth round grade on it (which is actually up from where I had him at the end of the season), but unless you ask the question, "what are the Redskins looking for at this pick?" you would not have been able to predict the Jarvis Jenkins pick either.

When I was evaluating the Jenkins pick, I noticed two things:
1) The Redskins may have been able to get Jenkins a round later
2) They did not pass up anyone else that could do what Jenkins could in order to take him

I kind of think that Weeden in the second round would be the same thing. The Redskins probably could get him in the third round. But what are they looking for? Someone who fits both what Mike and Kyle like in a QB? Someone with advanced mechanics? A guy who will not limit the offense with physical limitations? Brandon Weeden offers all that. The only thing he doesn't offer is a good value pick at a need position.

I think that FANS should be skeptical of Weeden because fans want the best long-term solution possible. Weeden won't even be the best value pick at QB on the board whenever he is drafted. Kellen Moore and Kirk Cousins have MUCH better long term projections, in my estimation. But why on God's Green Earth would the Shanahans care who the QB of the Redskins is in 2016? They aren't going to base ANY of their draft decisions on long-term projection, which is why Weeden makes more sense for them than for another team.

A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.

Ruhskins
02-20-2012, 02:45 PM
A lot of fans act like the guy is 38 years old. He can play until his late 30's. He could easily have a 8-10 year career if he's good enough. Everyone needs to remember that Weeden isn't a running back. If the front office thinks he's good enough then being 29 shouldn't really matter. I'd have no problem taking him in the 2nd round.

Still age is a big difference for a QB-starved team. Plus, with him there is no "let's develop him" because of his age. If you want him as a back up, then age is not an issue. If you want him as a starter, then he better start from day one.

skinsfan69
02-20-2012, 03:01 PM
Still age is a big difference for a QB-starved team. Plus, with him there is no "let's develop him" because of his age. If you want him as a back up, then age is not an issue. If you want him as a starter, then he better start from day one.

He's probably more pro ready than anyone besides Luck.

Dirtbag59
02-20-2012, 03:24 PM
My gut tells me that the simplest way for us to end up with RGIII is for the Browns to get Flynn. However by the same token I've been seeing the Browns looking at trading up 2 spots for a QB to be a waste of time where as the Dolphins and Seahawks might look at trading up with a nothing to loose attitude and thereby easily outbid us for the number 2 pick.

Best case scenario, the Dolphins get Manning, the Browns get Flynn, and the Seahawks fall in love with a random QB from the second or third tier. Seahawks actually might make me more uneasy then any of the other contenders seeing as how they are very unpredictable on draft day under Pete Carroll. They go back and fourth between making good picks and making head scratchers.

mredskins
02-20-2012, 04:27 PM
I just wanted to drop this in here for all the folks so excited about Luck and/or RGIII. Oden was the biggest thing since sliced bread when he was coming out.

Look at his career:

Trail Blazers' Greg Oden undergoes fifth knee surgery - NBA - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/02/20/greg.oden.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a8&eref=sihp)

Dirtbag59
02-20-2012, 04:33 PM
Tannehill in play for Miami?
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UPDATE: Gary Horton of Scouts, Inc. checked in on the Dolphins' offseason QB situation in a column Monday (find his thoughts at the bottom of the post).

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Having hired Ryan Tannehill's former head coach as its new offensive coordinator, the Miami Dolphins stand uniquely positioned to make a decision on whether or not he's the right choice to lead them into the future at QB, as Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel explored in a post this weekend. Ultimately, Kelly concludes that it's too early in the process to say whether the Dolphins would consider him with their first-rounder -- either No. 8 or No. 9, depending on a coin flip with the Carolina Panthers -- but that Tannehill can't be ruled out as an option.

A lot can change between now and the draft, given that teams will be signing veteran free agents in the interim. For the Dolphins, the potential addition of such a player -- be it Peyton Manning or Matt Flynn -- would likely mean that they would not target a QB with their first-rounder. It's using that as a hypothetical possibility that Mel Kiper, Jr. sent a player at another position to Miami at No. 9 in his most recent mock draft:

Dirtbag59
02-20-2012, 04:40 PM
I just wanted to drop this in here for all the folks so excited about Luck and/or RGIII. Oden was the biggest thing since sliced bread when he was coming out.

Look at his career:

Trail Blazers' Greg*Oden undergoes fifth knee surgery - NBA - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/02/20/greg.oden.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a8&eref=sihp)

Theres obviously no such thing as a sure thing in the draft. However what would we really giving up? We have two playoff appearences and one playoff victory in the last decade and have picked in the top 15 more times then I care to count. Look at all the teams picking in the bottom of the first round. Almost all of those teams have QB's that they can rely on to win games.

I'll give up 3 potential starters for a game changing QB any day of the week. Especially one with off the chart intangibles and physical ability.

And keep in mind another top 10 draft pick type year means that theres a good chance Shanahan could be fired which means a ton of roster turnover (think of the Broncos roster after Shanahan left). So in the end a lot of this building through the draft would end up being an exercise in futility.

We keep ordering new parts for the same broken down car. It's time to get a new car.

FRPLG
02-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne

Got to hell with that prediction!!

Haha. Kill me if that is the case. Kill me dead.

Alvin Walton
02-20-2012, 05:25 PM
Got to hell with that prediction!!

Haha. Kill me if that is the case. Kill me dead.


yUk......thats like a 14.6 % upgrade from last year

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