Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

If it goes to arbitration, I hope the Redskins ask for removal of the balance of the $18 million for next year and a compensatory pick at the end of the 2nd round this year to compensate for our inability to utilize the cap space we were entitled to.

I'd take that.


I still hate that the other teams involved in the collusion still end up with a $1.6 million REWARD for their illegal activity, or at least going along with the league's crimes.

... I enjoy your theories and at the end of the day that is all mine are because nether of us knows the true facts of the case and all we can do is speculate on what really transpired.You use very good words as "cheat" and "cheap ass case" but in the end we know the the NFL lawyers might make it look the other way around.

G1, to give JR some credit, as most know on here, he did not sleep at a holiday inn express last night (unless his lady made him) and his theories are based on legal insight, not just a schmuck like me throwing out big words. Maybe you have legal insight through honest education, I dunno, but discounting JR's because you don't like his well thought out/well expressed clarifications makes your argument seem pretty shallow.

G1, to give JR some credit, as most know on here, he did not sleep at a holiday inn express last night (unless his lady made him) and his theories are based on legal insight, not just a schmuck like me throwing out big words. Maybe you have legal insight through honest education, I dunno, but discounting JR's because you don't like his well thought out/well expressed clarifications makes your argument seem pretty shallow.

Just how painful was it to type those words bro?

We actually agree on the NFLPA,now where we disagree is
your opinon that the actions of DS and JJ were not improper if as reported they did agree with the other 30 owners they did agree not to dump salaries then they action of the "comittee" overides the action of the 2(or 4)you say they were bound by the CBA.....yet the NFLPA says it was fine with them.Look you sayng the actions were proper at the time ,of course you do you are a Redskin fan but that simply is not the case.
This is where we disagree .. you say "While it looks good at first blush, the NFLPA's procedural approval of the sanction is irrelevant " I understand your opinion but I disagree that it is as you say irrelevant.You have 2 parties the owners and the players and both are together in their opinion of what happen except DS and JJ and it looks as if the Cowboys will accept the punishment.I enjoy your theories and at the end of the day that is all mine are becuase nether of us knows the true facts of the case and all we can do is speculate on what really transpired.You use very good words as "cheat" and "cheap ass case" but in the end we know the the NFL lawyers might make it look the other way around.
Is this like, Giant...eze?
Time for a move to the drunk thread?.......?

Just how painful was it to type those words bro?

let's just say this weekend was a trip to disneyland in comparison!

Here is the problem with all this. (even though JR is right with the legal part of this)


You now have two owners that are being punished for collusion that happened back 2 years ago. That said, these same owners have been apart of collusion themselves in other dealings in the NFL (and NFLPA/CBA).


It's much like a drug dealer calling the cops on a fellow drug dealer for stealing his stash. As much as you are being wronged, you really can't expose yourself to the illegal acts you are doing as well.

Now granted waivers were signed to "forgive" the previous collusion, but think about any upcoming negotiations.

What would Al Davis do??? Sue, SUe,SUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the problem with all this. (even though JR is right with the legal part of this)


You now have two owners that are being punished for collusion that happened back 2 years ago. That said, these same owners have been apart of collusion themselves in other dealings in the NFL (and NFLPA/CBA).


It's much like a drug dealer calling the cops on a fellow drug dealer for stealing his stash. As much as you are being wronged, you really can't expose yourself to the illegal acts you are doing as well.

Now granted waivers were signed to "forgive" the previous collusion, but think about any upcoming negotiations.
This is why an arbitration hearing, or simply settling it at the owner's meetings makes the most sense. I would think though that any owner's meeting agreement again would need the NFLPA agreement while an arbitrator could make his/her ruling independently.

If we do NOTHING that means they have something on us. Maybe we spoke to St. Lou before time I don't know something like that.

If we do NOTHING that means they have something on us. Maybe we spoke to St. Lou before time I don't know something like that.

No. If we do nothing, it simply means that, in weighing the probability and benefits of prevailing against the costs of pursuing the claim, the possibility of an adverse decision and/or the incidental costs created by attacking their fellow owners, DS decided it was best to go quietly into the night.

Lots of people settle or fail to pursue meritorious claims and they do so for lots of reasons unrelated to the actual merit of the claim. It is why Dallas' decision not to pursue a claim is simply not in any way probative as to the merit of the Skins' substantive claim.