Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

The timing was bad. They knew what they were doing because had they done it sooner and the Skins won then the Skins would have bought every really good player up and they needed to prevent that. It worked. They got what they wanted.

I think they know they'll lose this fight but by the time the Skins make a move most of the really good players will be taken up by other teams in the name of "competativeness".

You all are right;

- Timing
- Amount
- Wrongness
- Lack of a Rule
- Collusion by the owners
- The Giants owner being the Cheif Exec on the board

What is the underlying message the NFL is sending?

-It's ok to break the law as long as everyone agrees
-If you don't go along with the majority you'll get bullied
-People who do the right thing get screwed in the end


I hope Snyder files the law suit, he can always drop it if the other owners agree to give back the other 18 mill they took away.

I also wonder what would happen of the players of the two teams filed individual law suits against the owners who colluded? The Union agreed to not file but the individual players did not.

I can only hope JJ does not tuck his tail and run and hope he stands beside DS in the fighting this injustice.

From whichever angle you approach this it stinks to high heaven. But the fact that the NFL sprung this on the Redskins 24 hours before free agency has to be the most egregious and blatant of them all.

Now the NFL is on the verge of losing the PR battle because nobody - and I mean nobody -- does PR and spin better than Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones. So while the NFL may be able to stand on some very flimsy legal justification, the optics are about to favor Jones and Snyder.

Well said. If nothing else, I hope we make The Shield look like a bunch of colluding d-bags, which is exactly what they are.

If you don't believe owner's can't sue the NFL and win google Al Davis

Someone on the radio mentioned Al's case in connection with this, and being in favor of the skins and cowboys. Does anyone understand it enough to explain?

Someone on the radio mentioned Al's case in connection with this, and being in favor of the skins and cowboys. Does anyone understand it enough to explain?In 1980, Davis attempted to move the Raiders to Los Angeles but was blocked by a court injunction. In response Davis filed an anti-trust suit against the NFL. In June 1982 a federal district court ruled in Davis' favor and the team officially relocated to Los Angeles for the 1982 NFL season. The parallell I would guess is that the Redskins did what they did to better their team and broke no league rules and by tampering with that, the NFL violated anti-trust laws which forbid taking actions that would be inhibit a franchise's ability to remain competitive.

Well said. If nothing else, I hope we make The Shield look like a bunch of colluding d-bags, which is exactly what they are.
here in lies the problem. the skins are part of the collusion. just not in this case. seems to me the skins cant lose if they decide to sue. here's where our legal expert, joeredskin, should step up to the plate

The way I understand it...30 teams agreed to this punishment...so it is 30 vs 2.
The NFL is more of a club than a business.
How can the skins sue?....who are they suing?...the NFL?....they are the nfl?
The 32 owners are the NFL and the commissioner is paid by the owners.
How can you sue yourself?, the players association also agreed to approve it.
This is all legit the way the NFL/players association works.
Collusion is a different call...but you'd have to argue that was done to keep pay down..can't be argued this year since they kept the cap total the same...but could be argued during the non cap year...but think about it, is it really worth it?
Sure the Skins got screwed..but they are going to pay the cap hit they normally would have...the issue I have is a couple others got away with it on a smaller scale....and if you pursue a lawsuit, you will make enemies of those you depend on.
You really dont want the NFL a perpetual enemy of the Skins...think of penalties, fines, scheduling, supplemental draft picks, etc


Agree 100%

I dont think the other NFL teams want 2 of their wealthiest and most influential owners being tied at the hip looking to retaliate at some point in the future. The other teams played their hand. Snyder and Jerry seem to have gotten closer and closer. If i were an NFL owner, i would remember the day they made the decision to step on two competitive guys worth a combined $3.1 billion(wiki).

That being said, i cant see this decision being reduced via compromise. Doesnt that incriminate the league further?

The way I understand it...30 teams agreed to this punishment...so it is 30 vs 2.
The NFL is more of a club than a business.
How can the skins sue?....who are they suing?...the NFL?....they are the nfl?
The 32 owners are the NFL and the commissioner is paid by the owners.
How can you sue yourself?, the players association also agreed to approve it.
This is all legit the way the NFL/players association works.
Collusion is a different call...but you'd have to argue that was done to keep pay down..can't be argued this year since they kept the cap total the same...but could be argued during the non cap year...but think about it, is it really worth it?
Sure the Skins got screwed..but they are going to pay the cap hit they normally would have...the issue I have is a couple others got away with it on a smaller scale....and if you pursue a lawsuit, you will make enemies of those you depend on.
You really dont want the NFL a perpetual enemy of the Skins...think of penalties, fines, scheduling, supplemental draft picks, etc

Good points, but the fact that the NFL can actually take such action even though no actual rules were broken is pretty scary for an owner. Theoretically, any 1 or 2 teams could at any time be ganged up upon like this, just because the other 30 & the nflpa agree to it.

I would think if a suit is filed you'll see the words "arbitrary and capricious" over & over. This fits the definition to a t.

Good points, but the fact that the NFL can actually take such action even though no actual rules were broken is pretty scary for an owner. Theoretically, any 1 or 2 teams could at any time be ganged up upon like this, just because the other 30 & the nflpa agree to it.

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What I think some are missing is that from some reports all 32 did agree and then 4 decided to do it anyway .

What I think some are missing is that from some reports all 32 did agree and then 4 decided to do it anyway .

"Agree"