Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess


tryfuhl
03-25-2012, 08:44 PM
Funny how nearly everyone sides with the players in the cba talks. Now they want to blame the owners that DID give that money to players. And they call us greedy... yet several teams spent well under the previous floor. And Snyder once again hasn't raised ticket prices. Greedy?

SFREDSKIN
03-25-2012, 08:55 PM
I hope Mara gets anally raped without lube for this bullshit!!! Skins get all their cash back and compensatory picks, this is war.

MTK
03-25-2012, 09:02 PM
I'm not sure John Mara should be talking - NFC East Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/37421/im-not-sure-john-mara-should-be-talking)

Dirtbag59
03-25-2012, 09:04 PM
Mara calling the Redskins and the Cowboys cheaters in this incident is the pot calling the kettle black. I mean we've gone over it a million times but theres a list of something like 9 teams that used the uncapped year to "create a competitive advantage" and the only 2 teams that get actual salary cap sanctions are his division rivals.

Taking $46 million in cap space from your division rivals for violating a rule that technically didn't exist, thats pretty f'ing dirty. If anyones exploiting a loophole it's Mara using his position as head of the competition committee.

I personally can't wait until they overturn this in arbitration.

Hog1
03-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Dude should seriously get with Irsay and do a Twitter....union...thing...
His thoughts may not taste as pleasant the second time around...

KI Skins Fan
03-25-2012, 09:29 PM
Mara calling the Redskins and the Cowboys cheaters in this incident is the pot calling the kettle black. I mean we've gone over it a million times but theres a list of something like 9 teams that used the uncapped year to "create a competitive advantage" and the only 2 teams that get actual salary cap sanctions are his division rivals.

Taking $46 million in cap space from your division rivals for violating a rule that technically didn't exist, thats pretty f'ing dirty. If anyones exploiting a loophole it's Mara using his position as head of the competition committee.

I personally can't wait until they overturn this in arbitration.

If Mara had tried to penalize nearly one-third of the teams in the league, he wouldn't have been able to get enough support to go after the teams he considered to be the worst offenders.

Since you mentioned Mara's less than pure motives, I'd like to point out that, after the two teams were penalized, the cap room was then spread among the rest of the teams which gave Mara's cap-starved team an additional $1.6M to spend.

SBXVII
03-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Mara calling the Redskins and the Cowboys cheaters in this incident is the pot calling the kettle black. I mean we've gone over it a million times but theres a list of something like 9 teams that used the uncapped year to "create a competitive advantage" and the only 2 teams that get actual salary cap sanctions are his division rivals.

Taking $46 million in cap space from your division rivals for violating a rule that technically didn't exist, thats pretty f'ing dirty. If anyones exploiting a loophole it's Mara using his position as head of the competition committee.

I personally can't wait until they overturn this in arbitration.

Exactly. The Saints were one also... no punishment. I know it has been said but if they were treating it like any other capped yr then why didn't they punish the teams who fell below the CAP floor also?

Because the whole point of the agreement was to cheat the players out of money. By keeping costs down they could try to point out to the players that the reason for the low revenue was because they didn't make as much as everyone thought they did. So in reality they didn't care if teams spent below the CAP floor.

The whole thing is BS. Either punish everyone even if it was $100,000 they spent or 36 mill and punish the ones who spent too low or not at all or don't punish at all. But the main issue is how are you going to punish someone for not violating any laws? But it's ok for everyone else to break the labor laws and not get punished. WTF?

SBXVII
03-25-2012, 09:36 PM
If Mara had tried to penalize nearly one-third of the teams in the league, he wouldn't have been able to get enough support to go after the teams he considered to be the worst offenders.

Since you mentioned Mara's less than pure motives, I'd like to point out that, after the two teams were penalized, the cap room was then spread among the rest of the teams which gave Mara's cap-starved team an additional $1.6M to spend.

I don't have a problem with the Exec commitee bringing it up, but it should have been shelved until the next owners meeting so all the owners could hear the allegations and hear the Redskins and Dallas's arguements on the issue and all should have voted on it. The problem? the Skins would have spent the money by then and had picked up all the really good players leaving everyone else to pick up the scraps. or so they were afraid would happen. Punish first, then give back if you have to but you've forced competativeness by that point. So what happens if the Arbiture decides they should give back the CAP space? which teams spent their 1.6 mill? and can they give it back after it's been spent?

They should have to give all back or the majority and for their illegal and immoral act they should be forced to give both teams a compensatory pick at the end of RD 1.

Lotus
03-25-2012, 09:43 PM
It's not just that Mara is being a butthead.

Even worse, this event is certain to be mentioned by players in the next CBA discussions, if not sooner. Mara is inviting labor-owner disaster.

JoeRedskin
03-25-2012, 10:05 PM
As I said earlier, one of the concerns for the owners is that, if this goes nuclear, there may be a chance that tthe collusion suits may be re-opened. Apparently, more than one person has had this thought:

"The union had to drop all pending litigation against the league as part of the Brady settlement last year when the lockout ended. That included the collusion charges they filed against the league for the suspicions they had about this kind of 2010 activity. Mara's admission could well qualify as new evidence that could allow the union to file new charges."

From the Graziano blog cited above.

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