SBXVII
04-18-2012, 09:42 AM
News....
Hearing coming in May on Redskins, Cowboys cap grievance | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/18/hearing-coming-in-may-on-redskins-cowboys-cap-grievance/)
Ruhskins
04-18-2012, 09:45 AM
I can see us having to bite the bullet in terms of the 18 mil we lost this year, but possibly having the rest of the penalty lifted. Although, I wouldn't mind having the entire 36 mil lifted, it would allow us to get some FAs late in the offseason or even during the season if there is a need.
SBXVII
04-18-2012, 10:13 AM
I can see us having to bite the bullet in terms of the 18 mil we lost this year, but possibly having the rest of the penalty lifted. Although, I wouldn't mind having the entire 36 mil lifted, it would allow us to get some FAs late in the offseason or even during the season if there is a need.
I can see your point only because we spent the half that was left with us already but I really think we have a really good legal arguement and could see the full punishment being dropped.
The league contends that the Cowboys and Redskins violated the “spirit (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/25/mara-says-redskins-cowboys-are-lucky-they-didnt-lose-draft-picks/)” of the salary cap during the uncapped year of 2010, even though the NFL approved all contracts submitted by the teams containing payments in 2010. The circumstances suggest that the NFL tried to impose restrictions on spending that didn’t exist in the labor deal, which would constitute collusion in the uncapped year.
The issue is over the spirit part. If there was no rule or law against it then there really should be no punishment. The other owners might not be able to trust DS or JJ anymore with any agreements but that was the risk all the owners forced to accept.
and the NFL approved the contracts. If the NFL didn't like the contracts or it fell outside of the "spirit" of their salary cap then the NFL should have and did have the opportunity to deny them or tell the teams to rework the contracts. They didn't. Their mistake not ours. But there was no mistake. Had the NFL used their right to deny or tell teams to rework the contracts at that point the NFLPA would have had an arguement and evidence of the owners colluding. So to keep from getting into trouble the NFL approved the contracts and moved forward with their talks with the NFLPA over a new CBA. Now after the fact the NFL wants to say "oh we didn't like what you did and didn't like having to agree to those contracts and now that we have a new CBA and an agreement with the NFLPA over not coming after us we will punish you for not following the "spirit" of what we all wanted everyone to follow."
skinsguy
04-18-2012, 11:28 AM
"The move has prompted a significant outcry from Cowboys and Redskins games, creating an unholy alliance between two arch rivals that could confirm the accuracy of the Mayan calendar."
LOL!!!!
I can see us having to bite the bullet in terms of the 18 mil we lost this year, but possibly having the rest of the penalty lifted. Although, I wouldn't mind having the entire 36 mil lifted, it would allow us to get some FAs late in the offseason or even during the season if there is a need.
I think getting $18M back for next year is the most likely outcome.
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CrustyRedskin
04-18-2012, 01:26 PM
"The move has prompted a significant outcry from Cowboys and Redskins games, creating an unholy alliance between two arch rivals that could confirm the accuracy of the Mayan calendar."
LOL!!!!
:goodjob::rofl:
SBXVII
04-18-2012, 01:50 PM
So just to figure this all out.... the Skins had $36 mill of CAP space. The league has stated they are going to take it all back, but not all in one year. So they took $18 mill this year and said we will owe the other $18 mill next year. Fine. We were left with $18 mill in CAP space. Which we used. What are we going to give them next year "IF" the punishment is upheld? lol.
I'm believing the two teams can win this arguement. Based off the fact there was no actual rule or law in place saying they could not do what they did. On top of that the league approved the deals/contracts. The league had ample opportunity to review the contracts which they did, and either approve or deny the contracts. The league approved them.
SmootSmack
04-18-2012, 02:01 PM
News....
Hearing coming in May on Redskins, Cowboys cap grievance | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/18/hearing-coming-in-may-on-redskins-cowboys-cap-grievance/)
May 10 specifically
Dirtbag59
04-18-2012, 02:20 PM
I think getting $18M back for next year is the most likely outcome.
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I think its kind of like being indicted for a crime. Your reward is you don't get punished. The $36 million in cap penalties is kind of like bail if you ask me.
NYCskinfan82
04-18-2012, 02:36 PM
I can see us having to bite the bullet in terms of the 18 mil we lost this year, but possibly having the rest of the penalty lifted. Although, I wouldn't mind having the entire 36 mil lifted, it would allow us to get some FAs late in the offseason or even during the season if there is a need.
That's how I see it too. That way the NFL can some what keep face.