Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

Frankly, I hope enough chaos ensues that they will reduce the penalties to put an end to it. I think that's our best case scenario (other than this escalting to the point where Snyder is forced to sell the Skins)

You have made some good points regarding this cap mess; however, would you please come to your senses and drop your ridiculous assertions that the other NFL owners might force Dan Snyder out as an owner or take away the draft pick that would enable the Skins to acquire either RGIII or Luck if Snyder doesn't take his medicine like a good boy. The sky is not falling. Neither of those things will ever happen.

I could give you many reasons why those things won't happen but I'll just give you a few.

One: No NFL owner in his right mind would want to set the precedent of voting out another owner because to do so opens the door to his possibly being voted out in the future.

Two: Just because most of the owners are lined up against the Skins and Cowboys on this particular issue doesn't mean that they are all enemies of Dan Snyder and/or Jerry Jones. They both, no doubt, have friends among the other owners.

Three: If the NFL ever contemplated the things you keep bringing up, then they would be in for the legal fight of their lives - and they know it. Any extreme action against Dan Snyder brought on by the cap dispute would necessarily bring Jerry Jones into the fight on Snyder's side because he would perceive that as a threat to himself.

Four: If this cap issue were to escalate into full-scale war, both Snyder and Jones have friends in Congress who they could get involved, if necessary, to give the NFL a huge headache, if not worse.

There is no evidence to suggest that either Dan Snyder's ownership of the Redskins or this year's second overall draft pick is at stake here, so just drop it.

a loophole is a loophole whether its morally right or wrong.

people can look sideways at you for morals, but no one can put you in jail for it.

Friends can count on your word. Colleagues should count on written contracts. If they didnt write it down, there was a reason(illegal).

We're being punished for not doing something illegal.

one thing that is not going to happen is DS is not going to sell the Skins over this, it's a ridiculous notion to even put it into this type of discussion. For comparison purposes, Benson ain't selling the saints, and Kraft didn't chafe at the cheating. Makes the rest of a post look less informed when that is put in as even a remote consequence.

You have made some good points regarding this cap mess; however, would you please come to your senses and drop your ridiculous assertions that the other NFL owners might force Dan Snyder out as an owner or take away the draft pick that would enable the Skins to acquire either RGIII or Luck if Snyder doesn't take his medicine like a good boy. The sky is not falling. Neither of those things will ever happen.

I could give you many reasons why those things won't happen but I'll just give you a few.

One: No NFL owner in his right mind would want to set the precedent of voting out another owner because to do so opens the door to his possibly being voted out in the future.

Two: Just because most of the owners are lined up against the Skins and Cowboys on this particular issue doesn't mean that they are all enemies of Dan Snyder and/or Jerry Jones. They both, no doubt, have friends among the other owners.

Three: If the NFL ever contemplated the things you keep bringing up, then they would be in for the legal fight of their lives - and they know it. Any extreme action against Dan Snyder brought on by the cap dispute would necessarily bring Jerry Jones into the fight on Snyder's side because he would perceive that as a threat to himself.

Four: If this cap issue were to escalate into full-scale war, both Snyder and Jones have friends in Congress who they could get involved, if necessary, to give the NFL a huge headache, if not worse.

There is no evidence to suggest that either Dan Snyder's ownership of the Redskins or this year's second overall draft pick is at stake here, so just drop it.

The removing Dan Snyder as owner is a joke - I'm stuck hoping for either that or him being forced to sell as part of a divorce settlement a la the Dodgers.

As for the #2 pick, no way they take that. They could take other picks, and the point is that the League has Snyder by the balls in this situation.

And the real point is that the League doesn't live by normal rules. In joining the club, they have granted significant power to a Commissioner and are ultimately subject to a 3/4 majority.

People still have a problem with Snyder?

People still have a problem with Snyder?

Well it's not like he's a saint. Just not nearly as bad as he was before. His two frivolous lawsuits with the season ticket holder and the small newspaper are still relatively recent.

And then there were those two years where he gave Vinny full reign of the front office which I count as wholesale abuse.

The removing Dan Snyder as owner is a joke - I'm stuck hoping for either that or him being forced to sell as part of a divorce settlement a la the Dodgers.

As for the #2 pick, no way they take that. They could take other picks, and the point is that the League has Snyder by the balls in this situation.

And the real point is that the League doesn't live by normal rules. In joining the club, they have granted significant power to a Commissioner and are ultimately subject to a 3/4 majority.

So you agree,
1) there is no way that Snyder is gone (not really even a funny joke, just a lame old rehash)

2) we aren't losing the #2 pick

So really it's just bickering about the fact that the league has a strong oversight mechanism.

In most cases that mechanism works fine, simply because it is a small group and everyone needs to parlay support at one point in time. No big deal, and the 3/4's is a super majority needed to sustain any type of decision. If something else were to come before them in that circle, that didn't have an already filed arbitration brief, I am certain that the vote would be much less unanimous. I think the fact that even the Saints and Raiders approved it, when they were somewhat punished, shows that there was more at play than just the merits of the case.

So you agree,
1) there is no way that Snyder is gone (not really even a funny joke, just a lame old rehash)

2) we aren't losing the #2 pick

So really it's just bickering about the fact that the league has a strong oversight mechanism.

In most cases that mechanism works fine, simply because it is a small group and everyone needs to parlay support at one point in time. No big deal, and the 3/4's is a super majority needed to sustain any type of decision. If something else were to come before them in that circle, that didn't have an already filed arbitration brief, I am certain that the vote would be much less unanimous. I think the fact that even the Saints and Raiders approved it, when they were somewhat punished, shows that there was more at play than just the merits of the case.

I think we are all conditioned to assume either the Redskins will screw this up somehow, or the NFL will bring the hammer down as has been the case recently. I think you are right and we select RG3 2nd overall with zero issues, but there is always going to be that lingering doubt up until the second after we draft our player at number 2.

The Saints didn't even lose a first rounder so why would we?

Peeps need to put away the tinfoil hats.

The Saints didn't even lose a first rounder so why would we?

Peeps need to put away the tinfoil hats.

but they did lose a 2nd. and we used a 2nd to move forward in the draft.