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Schneed10 12-09-2014, 10:32 AM I think Robert comes from a military family where discipline and hard work are paramount. But his parents were sergeants, not colonels. I don't think his upbringing came with a lot of strategic or analytical thinking. His upbringing came with drive, determination, physical hard work (you hear stories about his dad pushing him in workouts, running hills, etc.). And you hear his motivational life lessons on Twitter and Facebook, he's very much a mind over matter kind of guy.
And his work ethic with the physical side, combined with his raw athleticism, was all he ever needed to succeed in high school and college. So naturally given his upbringing and his work habits, he focuses on the weight room and agility drills. He's never had to talk Xs and Os with a coach at the chalkboard. At least not at an advanced level.
Shanahan saw this, and designed a read option based offense that just required him to make one or two reads. Gruden needs him go through three or four reads. No surprise that we're seeing failure.
I don't think McVay and Gruden are lacking in the teaching of Xs and Os department. They're lacking in other areas, namely discipline. But sticking just to the QB training side, they're fine. Robert is the problem. He has to change and become more of a student of the game. I don't think he recognizes that though, so I think he'll continue to fail.
Kirk gets the Gruden offense. The teaching reached him. He's just a gun slinger and makes mistakes, then gets down on himself and has no gumption to rally.
Schneed10 12-09-2014, 10:35 AM So long story short, I think Gruden makes a good offensive coordinator and McVay a good QB coach. But they're not strong enough in the discipline department or leadership department to be Head Coach and Coordinator respectively.
The team is sloppy and misses blocking assignments. The only unit I'd give a passing grade to on this team is the pass receiving group - Reed, Paul, and the WRs.
We need a stronger head coach with more of a kick ass style to whip these guys into shape. Gruden belongs back in the coordinator ranks.
Schneed10 12-09-2014, 10:37 AM And I'm with Fletcher, Haslett is a disaster.
mredskins 12-09-2014, 10:44 AM So long story short, I think Gruden makes a good offensive coordinator and McVay a good QB coach. But they're not strong enough in the discipline department or leadership department to be Head Coach and Coordinator respectively.
The team is sloppy and misses blocking assignments. The only unit I'd give a passing grade to on this team is the pass receiving group - Reed, Paul, and the WRs.
We need a stronger head coach with more of a kick ass style to whip these guys into shape. Gruden belongs back in the coordinator ranks.
Cowher.
irish 12-09-2014, 11:01 AM I think Robert comes from a military family where discipline and hard work are paramount. But his parents were sergeants, not colonels. I don't think his upbringing came with a lot of strategic or analytical thinking. His upbringing came with drive, determination, physical hard work (you hear stories about his dad pushing him in workouts, running hills, etc.). And you hear his motivational life lessons on Twitter and Facebook, he's very much a mind over matter kind of guy.
And his work ethic with the physical side, combined with his raw athleticism, was all he ever needed to succeed in high school and college. So naturally given his upbringing and his work habits, he focuses on the weight room and agility drills. He's never had to talk Xs and Os with a coach at the chalkboard. At least not at an advanced level.
Shanahan saw this, and designed a read option based offense that just required him to make one or two reads. Gruden needs him go through three or four reads. No surprise that we're seeing failure.
I don't think McVay and Gruden are lacking in the teaching of Xs and Os department. They're lacking in other areas, namely discipline. But sticking just to the QB training side, they're fine. Robert is the problem. He has to change and become more of a student of the game. I don't think he recognizes that though, so I think he'll continue to fail.
Kirk gets the Gruden offense. The teaching reached him. He's just a gun slinger and makes mistakes, then gets down on himself and has no gumption to rally.
I dont think RG's parent's jobs have anything to do with whether or not he's a hard worker.
Its funny how now everyone thinks the team needs more discipline, because another part of why JG was hired is because he's more of a players coach than Shanny the disciplinarian.
NC_Skins 12-09-2014, 11:25 AM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4bQl5VIEAAzD3D.png
Rotten1980 12-09-2014, 11:28 AM So long story short, I think Gruden makes a good offensive coordinator and McVay a good QB coach. But they're not strong enough in the discipline department or leadership department to be Head Coach and Coordinator respectively.
The team is sloppy and misses blocking assignments. The only unit I'd give a passing grade to on this team is the pass receiving group - Reed, Paul, and the WRs.
We need a stronger head coach with more of a kick ass style to whip these guys into shape. Gruden belongs back in the coordinator ranks.
Yup, to infinity.
SFREDSKIN 12-09-2014, 12:01 PM RGIII is not the only one having issues:
What Do Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III Have in Common? (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/what-do-colin-kaepernick-and-robert-griffin-iii-have-in-common.html/)
skinsguy 12-09-2014, 12:06 PM RGIII is not the only one having issues:
What Do Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III Have in Common? (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/what-do-colin-kaepernick-and-robert-griffin-iii-have-in-common.html/)
Out of the three duo-threat quarterbacks that have had success in the past three years (RGIII, Kaepernick, and Wilson), only Wilson has had the most success and continues to play pretty well. I wonder how much of that has to do with the OL?
Evilgrin 12-09-2014, 12:21 PM Out of the three duo-threat quarterbacks that have had success in the past three years (RGIII, Kaepernick, and Wilson), only Wilson has had the most success and continues to play pretty well. I wonder how much of that has to do with the OL?
I think it has more to do with the defense then anything else.
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