RG3 and Gruden?


KI Skins Fan
12-19-2014, 07:24 PM
at the time of accepting the job and all that guaranteed cash money, i dont think gruden ever suspected RG3 would be this far behind at the basics of being an NFL qb.

As I said before, that's just tough shit for him, isn't it?

Lotus
12-19-2014, 07:46 PM
Best thing they can do for RGIII or for himself during the offseason, is to hire an ex-QB or coach and immerse himself on how to play in the pocket. Learn the timing, awareness, footwork, etc. he's got 7-8 months to learn that shit if he wants to succeed.

That's what he did last offseason.

punch it in
12-19-2014, 07:57 PM
As I said before, that's just tough shit for him, isn't it?


Lol. Thats alittle harsh. Its tough shit for Griff really. I mean I think we are all surprised by his ineffectiveness. All last year we were giving him a pass on the mechanics. Thinking it was due to the injury. What is the excuse now?

punch it in
12-19-2014, 07:58 PM
That's what he did last offseason.


Yeah really. Going into year four and we are hoping he can learn...."the basics"? Ruh Rho.

BaltimoreSkins
12-19-2014, 09:30 PM
I have not heard many people singing Robert's praises lately in fact just the opposite. Also why is the term "coached up" being thrown around? I would settle for them just being coached to their ability then I'll worry about overachieving.

punch it in
12-19-2014, 09:35 PM
I have not heard many people singing Robert's praises lately in fact just the opposite. Also why is the term "coached up" being thrown around? I would settle for them just being coached to their ability then I'll worry about overachieving.


The key words there are "their ability". Im afraid this roster is lacking in that area. You are seeing what their ability is. Shanahan built his team and after 4 years they were a 3-13 team. Gruden simply inherited this team. I would like to believe that another offseason can change things, but is he going to be subject to another round of snyder and allen killing a draft?

DYoungJelly
12-19-2014, 09:49 PM
It says volumes about the trash caliber of this coaching staff that franchises around the league, division rivals especially, continue to state publicly 1) the talent they see in RG 2) the hope/desire they somehow land him.

I mean contrast is just startling. Gruden schemes and calls plays that maximize his teams weaknesses and minimizes strengths, and then goes on to talk shit about the franchise QB. Meanwhile the competition knows what we have and can't wait to get their hands on it.

How anybody is defending Gruden at this point just floors me. I thought he seemed like a solid guy, just not HC material. Now he looks like a moron and an asshole.

That is the cheapest statement in the NFL this week because there is no skin in the game.

What is the trade value right now to the eagles or anybody else for our "franchise" qb?

5th or 6th round?

Can't wait for the mega trade offers to roll in after the season. (This is a sarcastic statement because his current trade value is nil.)

The only person who can fix Griffin right now is Griffin. I sincerely hope he realizes he needs fixing. Would love for him to spend every waking hour between now and next camp learning the position the offense, the basic concepts that a third year professional football quarterback should know.

Would love for him to come in next year and earn a franchise tag for 16. It's on him.

punch it in
12-19-2014, 09:50 PM
^ like button

Rotten1980
12-19-2014, 11:52 PM
I'll take Chip Kelly's and Jerry Jones' word over Gruden's any day of the week, and twice on Sunday, and so will the rest of the pro football world. It doesn't mean they'll overreach to acquire him, mostly because the dumpster fire coaching staff in DC has done everything in its power to diminish RG's value. Right now legit HC and FO's around the league are watching with interest to see if Redskins Park is stupid enough to follow a historically bad HC into the abyss, jettisoning a talented young QB who hasn't even had the benefit of QB coach in his 3rd season for fuck sakes.

Perspective is paramount here. Gruden is the guy who was given every opportunity in Cincy, elite defense backing him up, way above average talent on offense. But he always found a way to blow it, usually by getting cute and forcing the passing game when the run had been the key to success. Meanwhile Kelly and Jones & Co are vying for the division title.

Meks
12-20-2014, 12:13 AM
^^^^ Andy Dalton blew it in Cinci, Gruden can't throw the passes or read the defenses for these guys, get your head outta the clouds.

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