skinsfan69
12-15-2014, 04:30 PM
If Gruden commits to the run and calls bootlegs, roll outs and screens with play action for the downfield shots we'll start putting points on the board again.
Gruden has been flat stubborn trying to force RG to throw from the pocket too much, well guess what jowly, no QB on the roster has been successful from the pocket. Get a fuckin clue or get the fuck out.
At some point in an NFL game, your QB has to throw from the pocket. You can't do play action or bootlegs on 3rd and 8.
Rotten1980
12-15-2014, 04:55 PM
At some point in an NFL game, your QB has to throw from the pocket. You can't do play action or bootlegs on 3rd and 8.
I know man but it's harder when the oline is a turnstile. That's why I said none of the QB's have really been successful overall from the pocket.
Colt's best plays have been on scrambles and rollouts too I think. Still like the guy as a person but don't want to see him on the field again lol.
diehardskin2982
12-15-2014, 05:04 PM
I think a mix will work well with a heavy commitment to the run. 3 and 8 play from the shotgun. Nothing to lose
HailGreen28
12-15-2014, 06:04 PM
2 Grievances:
1. Gruden or whoever, were morally wrong for starting a QB with a strained neck. It's obvious Colt was in a lot of unbearable pain. I've lost all respect for Gruden.
2. Colt can never be a long term option because of his injury history. Severe head and neck injuries. That sounds like Colt is done.LMAO. And there's any hope for Griffin long term? Dude hasn't played a whole season healthy yet.
Bangee7
12-15-2014, 06:37 PM
How much you want to bet we see more roll outs, play actions and moving of the pocket this Saturday?
I hope so...this plays to RG3's strengths (and helps against our biggest weakness- Pass Pro).
I personally think Robert gets more accurate throwing on the run.
Rollouts should also open up counters going back the other way.
CRedskinsRule
12-15-2014, 06:39 PM
We are beating Philly Sunday.
Sadly on Saturday when we play them, the Skins will be prepping for Sunday's game :(
Bucket
12-15-2014, 06:56 PM
People don't seem to understand that bootlegs, roll-outs and moving the pocket only works if the run game is working. Our run game this year has struggled and that's mainly due to our TE's. We have not one TE on the roster that is solid all around.
People see Paulsen in the game and they stack the box because he can't out run anyone. If it's Jordan or Paul they just beat them to the edge and there is no seal for the zone read.
Which is why I'm hoping we invest in more traditional style running like the Seahawks do and get some more powerful lineman. Right now we have a mix of both and it's not working out. We have no identity.
If we move the pocket and have the lineman shift one way or another, it cuts the field in half and good defenses that are fast will just take advantage of that.
Robert needs to learn to throw from the pocket to be a consistent, and successful offense. Period.
Rotten1980
12-15-2014, 07:46 PM
People don't seem to understand that bootlegs, roll-outs and moving the pocket only works if the run game is working. Our run game this year has struggled and that's mainly due to our TE's. We have not one TE on the roster that is solid all around.
People see Paulsen in the game and they stack the box because he can't out run anyone. If it's Jordan or Paul they just beat them to the edge and there is no seal for the zone read.
Which is why I'm hoping we invest in more traditional style running like the Seahawks do and get some more powerful lineman. Right now we have a mix of both and it's not working out. We have no identity.
If we move the pocket and have the lineman shift one way or another, it cuts the field in half and good defenses that are fast will just take advantage of that.
Robert needs to learn to throw from the pocket to be a consistent, and successful offense. Period.
Same TE's last year and we had the 6th best running game, even with RG all gimped up.
punch it in
12-15-2014, 07:52 PM
Sadly on Saturday when we play them, the Skins will be prepping for Sunday's game :(
....and sadly now I will not miss the game and therefore the misery that is sure to accompany it. Damn you C Redskins. Damn you and your TV Guide.....
DYoungJelly
12-15-2014, 08:20 PM
Same TE's last year and we had the 6th best running game, even with RG all gimped up.
What then good sir is your explanation?
I'm looking forward to some in depth analysis. I know your not gonna just say "cause Jay Gruden is the HC."
I agree with the original post that TE play is a huge factor in the run game this year.
Im sure there are other factors but seeing Paul and Reed being folded like pieces of paper and then their assignment making the tackle or disrupting the play stand out to my untrained eye.
Reed and Paul haven't blocked anybody all year. They are soft and don't block the backside or the front side well at all.