RG3 and Gruden?

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. The tag line is that "We need a lead so RGIII won't have to drp back." What Gruden actually says is far less dramatic: Gruden: We need lead so RGIII won't have to drop back - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000444925/article/gruden-we-need-lead-so-rgiii-wont-have-to-drop-back) All he says is that "It's important for us to have success on first and second down so we don't have to drop back and throw it 30 times a game, have a lead so we don't have to worry about it," Gruden said. "Eventually, when you get behind, when you get in third down, you get behind the chains, those have to be accomplished -- the drop-back reads, progressions have to be accomplished, and that's something we're fighting through right now."

What's controversial about that? Obviously, our 3rd down coversions are terrible, and we've been in 3rd and long a lot. That's something any coach wants to avoid, much less one piloting a 3-11 team.

So are you comparing belichik and gruden? Or griffin and Brady? Either way your view parallels griffin. You can take that however you want. We are not New England though. Examples can be given in Snarkey tones, but I still think if they wanted a coach to run the offense griffin way, they should have hired one. They didn't. They hired gruden...knowing the type of scheme he was bringing and what direction he wanted to take it. Playi g to a players strengths is one thing. Throwing your playbook away and rewriting your offense because your quarterback can't see his recievers is another thing all together.

What's the "Griffin way" in terms of coaching?

A good coach adjusts the scheme and playcalls to maximize the skillset of his players, period. If you don't get it I don't know what else to say...

What's the "Griffin way" in terms of coaching?

A good coach adjusts the scheme and playcalls to maximize the skillset of his players, period. If you don't get it I don't know what else to say...

I'm not sure what the griffin way is. You are the one arguing for it. I understand what adjusting is. Thanks for explaining. I can agree that adjusting to a players strengths is a good skillset for a coach to have. But rewriting an offense for 1 player is ridiculous. Again...there's a difference. If you don't get that, then I also don't know what else to say.

Cousins kills the team, that's the problem, who cares if the team moves if it turns over the ball constantly (the only team he beat was the Jaguars, any of the three of them would have beaten the Jaguars).

McCoy would be fine if he were healthy, but he's not.

That leaves Griffin

I'm not saying any of them should be given the job. None of them have seperated themselves. What I'm saying is there needs to be competition in 2015. Griffin should not be given the job.

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. <snip>

Agreed. A lot of that sh*t is misleading and extremely annoying.

Honestly, the media coverage on the whole RGIII/Gruden thing is f_ing stupid. The tag line is that "We need a lead so RGIII won't have to drp back." What Gruden actually says is far less dramatic: Gruden: We need lead so RGIII won't have to drop back - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000444925/article/gruden-we-need-lead-so-rgiii-wont-have-to-drop-back) All he says is that "It's important for us to have success on first and second down so we don't have to drop back and throw it 30 times a game, have a lead so we don't have to worry about it," Gruden said. "Eventually, when you get behind, when you get in third down, you get behind the chains, those have to be accomplished -- the drop-back reads, progressions have to be accomplished, and that's something we're fighting through right now."

What's controversial about that? Obviously, our 3rd down coversions are terrible, and we've been in 3rd and long a lot. That's something any coach wants to avoid, much less one piloting a 3-11 team.

Agreed. That's the media unfairly just ripping the skins. Gossip tabloid garbage. not professional journalism for sure

I'm not sure what the griffin way is. You are the one arguing for it. I understand what adjusting is. Thanks for explaining. I can agree that adjusting to a players strengths is a good skillset for a coach to have. But rewriting an offense for 1 player is ridiculous. Again...there's a difference. If you don't get that, then I also don't know what else to say.


When the player is the QB, why wouldn't you rewrite?

Or do you prefer losing?

I'm not saying any of them should be given the job. None of them have seperated themselves. What I'm saying is there needs to be competition in 2015. Griffin should not be given the job.

I don't disagree with that, but for the here and now we need to adjust to RG3's playstyle

Save the other stuff for the offseason

RG3 and Gruden may just be our best options for 2015. Tell me a better HC and QB that will be available in 2015 and wants to come here.....

When the player is the QB, why wouldn't you rewrite?

Or do you prefer losing?

I'm pretty sure this is the second offense that griffin is failing in. Check out the 2013 season to see him in the offense that gave him his acclaim in 2012. Oh wait...he was terrible last year. Must have been the line, or the coaches, or an injury, or a scheme, or something that makes it NOT his fault. Or maybe...just maybe, if he isn't running around in a read option, then he isn't that good of a quarterback. Everyone saying to change offense to griffins liking must be talking about a read option...but check how well that's working out since defenses are way more prepared for it since 2012.