RG3 and Gruden?

He had an average game to me. Very conservative play calling. The long ones to Jackson were nice. And Roberts wtf dude? Gotta help your QB on 3rd and long. He seriously sucks. Numerous drops this year. Great pick there Bruce! But I guess this is the kind of game Griffin has to run right now, hit a few, manage the game and try not to turn it over. He had a bad int and almost another that was dropped. Not sure this is what we should be expecting from the 2nd pick in the draft, a game manager, but right now it is what it is.

Roberts has disappointed for sure at WR and even in the return game, he's fair catching inside the 10....is that still a no-no?

I hope we're targeting a new return guy next year.

Roberts has disappointed for sure at WR and even in the return game, he's fair catching inside the 10....is that still a no-no?

I hope we're targeting a new return guy next year.

He did have the key return giving the team excellent field position on the final drive.

I would say Roberts has much improved the return game from the mix and match we had last year, but for what he is being paid I would expect Jacoby Jones numbers.

Robert Griffin III plays better, but debate over future will continue - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/14075/rg-iii-plays-better-but-debate-over-future-continues)

Keim always does a good analysis. He even mentions progression improvements and Robert positioning the safety with his eyes. Something some fans, myself included, have blasted Robert's ability to do.

If we were to fire Gruden, it appears that we could not get David Shaw, who seems happy at Stanford.

David Shaw plans to stay as Stanford Cardinal coach, shun NFL coaching opportunities - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12060475/david-shaw-plans-stay-stanford-cardinal-coach-shun-nfl-coaching-opportunities)

I'm all in for Griffin in 2015. I've complained and bitched and have said the opposite before, but I'm all in. He has gone thru a lot the first 3 seasons, a lot of it his own fault, but we need the continuity. Lets fix the offensive line (please please fix that dumpster fire), and see how much improvement he can make. I'd rather risk burning 1 more season, then using our first pick on a qb and starting over again. Use that pick to fix the line or secondary. So even if Griffin doesn't work out, we have an elite young o-linemen, safety, or corner going forward.

I'm in for Gruden too, but I hope him and Griffin can basically squash this year and start fresh again next year. And hopefully they both learned that mistakes were made on both sides, and they are both Redskins with 1 goal in mind.

And I know this has nothing to do with this thread, but I fucki*g love Trent Williams. What a hog, he needs to be a life long Redskin! He has played beat to shit all year, and hasn't played to his typical pro bowl type level because of it, but he shows up every week ready to go to fight with his teammates. He is the epitome of leading by example.

Shout out to Kerrigan too, he looks like he is getting towards being that elite type pass rusher that every team needs.

If we were to fire Gruden, it appears that we could not get David Shaw, who seems happy at Stanford.

David Shaw plans to stay as Stanford Cardinal coach, shun NFL coaching opportunities - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12060475/david-shaw-plans-stay-stanford-cardinal-coach-shun-nfl-coaching-opportunities)

Shaw would be my 1st choice followed by Bowles. Only if Gruden is canned which I highly doubt and should be given another year. Heck, we are one win better than last year.

How much are the Cardinals paying Bowles? Lets see them and raise them and bring him back to D.C. to be our defensive coordinator. That would be awesome. And he would easily be by choice of our next Head Coach too if Gruden were gone. (He won't be, just hypothetical)

Mike Shanahan says Robert Griffin III, Jay Cutler can still be franchise quarterbacks - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12060515/mike-shanahan-says-robert-griffin-iii-jay-cutler-franchise-quarterbacks)

How much are the Cardinals paying Bowles? Lets see them and raise them and bring him back to D.C. to be our defensive coordinator. That would be awesome. And he would easily be by choice of our next Head Coach too if Gruden were gone. (He won't be, just hypothetical)

pretty sure we would have to get cardinals approval to interview a guy for a lateral move. did we give some coord a sham "head coach - defense" title during gibbs II?

roberts - he just doesnt have hands. hes a serviceabale no 3 but he is being paid like a no 2. we have way too much of the cap invested in WR and we def need to trim some fat.