Chico23231
12-30-2022, 09:56 AM
Keep making up shit chico you're a liar so we expect nothing else from you .
You do understand that’s a direct quote tweet by Ro Khanna, the liberal Democrat congressman from California?
sdskinsfan2001
12-30-2022, 10:43 AM
You do understand that’s a direct quote tweet by Ro Khanna, the liberal Democrat congressman from California?
Don't hold your breath on waiting for an apology.
SunnySide
12-30-2022, 11:20 AM
Yeah that one as correct too. Blumenthal who was in the Marine reserves passed himself off as Vietnam war vet. Pretty sure he explicitly claimed he served in Vietnam on multiple tours but never actually went there.
whispering voice .. yeah I know, i was trying to trigger chico .. poorly
Funny thing is .. draft dodgers get less venom from the far right vs purple heart recipients and war hero POWs
(also a poor attempt at trolling ... )
In non trolling manner, and Im sure you showed due respect Nonniey .. what was done and said of John McCain before and after his passing was vile from the MAGA/Carlson crowd
Have a good Friday yall ... safe Saturday and a winner winner on Sunday!!
Giantone
12-30-2022, 12:46 PM
Don't hold your breath on waiting for an apology.
apology , LOL, early in the day for you to be drinking!
Chico23231
12-30-2022, 01:09 PM
whispering voice .. yeah I know, i was trying to trigger chico .. poorly
Funny thing is .. draft dodgers get less venom from the far right vs purple heart recipients and war hero POWs
(also a poor attempt at trolling ... )
In non trolling manner, and Im sure you showed due respect Nonniey .. what was done and said of John McCain before and after his passing was vile from the MAGA/Carlson crowd
Have a good Friday yall ... safe Saturday and a winner winner on Sunday!!
Just as vile was McCain backing the Steele Dossier as viable to the intel community with his blessing for investigation. He was a bitter old man at that point, acting as a politician and not the same person he was before.
McCain was a useful idiot to essentially a political operation which was completely discredited by multiple investigations end the end.
Giantone
12-30-2022, 02:30 PM
Just as vile was McCain backing the Steele Dossier as viable to the intel community with his blessing for investigation. He was a bitter old man at that point, acting as a politician and not the same person he was before.
[B]McCain was a useful idiot to essentially a political operation which was completely discredited by multiple investigations end the end.
[/chico, once again you are liar.]
Chico23231
12-30-2022, 03:29 PM
[/chico, once again you are liar.]
Good article here to back up everything:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2019/03/18/new-details-senator-john-mccain-role-trump-dossier-detailed-deposition-david-kramer/3205658002/
Sen. John McCain's role in Trump dossier intrigue detailed in deposition
The definition of a Useful Idiot
mooby
12-30-2022, 04:31 PM
Just as vile was McCain backing the Steele Dossier as viable to the intel community with his blessing for investigation. He was a bitter old man at that point, acting as a politician and not the same person he was before.
McCain was a useful idiot to essentially a political operation which was completely discredited by multiple investigations end the end.
Who knows, maybe if you keep repeating it someone will eventually believe you!
Did you even read that article you posted? It said Steele and his helper went to McCain to help get the FBI to research the dossier just to verify if the claims were even true - and his helper fucked up and allowed some reporter to take photos of the memos in the dossier which then ended up being published.
Literally nobody involved in that said the claims were true - it said the DNC paid Steele or whoever to do oppo research on Trump (which is standard for any politician in any big election) and that's what he came back with. If true the blame lies with some overzealous reporter for publishing an unverified dossier that everybody involved knew was unverified. McCain simply wanted to pass it onto the FBI so they could try to verify the claims.
Obviously the stakes were high, if the claims were true then Trump is compromised by potentially adversary foreign country/countries. If the claims weren't true then Steele's credibility would've been shot. But it 100% shouldn't have been published if the claims were unverified. Moot point now - I still think Trump is compromised because he's never said an ill word about Putin.
Chico23231
12-30-2022, 04:54 PM
Who knows, maybe if you keep repeating it someone will eventually believe you!
Did you even read that article you posted? It said Steele and his helper went to McCain to help get the FBI to research the dossier just to verify if the claims were even true - and his helper fucked up and allowed some reporter to take photos of the memos in the dossier which then ended up being published.
Literally nobody involved in that said the claims were true - it said the DNC paid Steele or whoever to do oppo research on Trump (which is standard for any politician in any big election) and that's what he came back with. If true the blame lies with some overzealous reporter for publishing an unverified dossier that everybody involved knew was unverified. McCain simply wanted to pass it onto the FBI so they could try to verify the claims.
Obviously the stakes were high, if the claims were true then Trump is compromised by potentially adversary foreign country/countries. If the claims weren't true then Steele's credibility would've been shot. But it 100% shouldn't have been published if the claims were unverified. Moot point now - I still think Trump is compromised because he's never said an ill word about Putin.
Mooby…my god. Use your brain here: “Steele was contracted by Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump for the Democratic National Committee and the law firm representing the campaign of Trump's then-Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.”
Now here: “After a lunch a nearby pub, Steele told Kramer “that he thought having Senator McCain weigh in would be hopeful in terms of giving the FBI additional prod to take this seriously,” Kramer said.
Kramer added later that "... I think he (Steele) felt that ... having Sen. McCain provide it to the FBI would give it a little more oomph than it had had up until that point."
Mooby, the dossier was circulating major news orgs and was rebuffed as it was obviously false and not worth the time. They ONLY went to McCain because they knew he hated Trump and in the article above in bold…he useful idiot because it gained zero traction anywhere else. Why? Because it couldn’t be verified as it was False from media outlet research.
Buzzfeed published it as they are fake news outlet, which hey we knew that 10 years ago.
Deposition in the article is a bad look for McCain.
mooby
12-30-2022, 06:49 PM
Mooby…my god. Use your brain here: “Steele was contracted by Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research on Trump for the Democratic National Committee and the law firm representing the campaign of Trump's then-Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.”
Now here: “After a lunch a nearby pub, Steele told Kramer “that he thought having Senator McCain weigh in would be hopeful in terms of giving the FBI additional prod to take this seriously,” Kramer said.
Kramer added later that "... I think he (Steele) felt that ... having Sen. McCain provide it to the FBI would give it a little more oomph than it had had up until that point."
Mooby, the dossier was circulating major news orgs and was rebuffed as it was obviously false and not worth the time. They ONLY went to McCain because they knew he hated Trump and in the article above in bold…he useful idiot because it gained zero traction anywhere else. Why? Because it couldn’t be verified as it was False from media outlet research.
Buzzfeed published it as they are fake news outlet, which hey we knew that 10 years ago.
Deposition in the article is a bad look for McCain.
Your point in bold doesn't clarify shit about why McCain gave it to the FBI. Why would he give it to the FBI to hurt Trump? If he wanted to hurt Trump he could've leaked the entire dossier through himself or his staff. Giving it to the FBI to verify what's true or not makes sense - obviously if you're dealing with something incredibly compromising you'd want to have it verified by as many credible sources as possible before it spreads to the public.