Chico23231
10-21-2023, 08:03 PM
That is horseshit. Not all the people in Gaza chose to pick or support Hamas.
There are, and have been huge swaths of people that do not support. Also as with any iron fisted government there are those who support them out if fear. For Chico or any other propagandist to say that every person living in Gaza is an anti semite or a terrorist is 110% horseshit.
I think it was 72% percent last election which is an overwhelming landslide. Stop it. Stop apologizing for folks who support and celebrate a brutal massacre
The folks of Gaza did not condemn the terrorist attack, they celebrated it.
Stop apologizing for terrorist who killed Americans
nonniey
10-21-2023, 08:38 PM
LOL, speciously? You don't think Hamas pressured their way into power with fear? If you really think they were elected fairly, you're nuts.
Wow now you are sounding like MAGA. There was/is no evidence that HAMAs stole the election - heck no one even postulated that they had until I saw it on this board.
Chico23231
10-21-2023, 09:55 PM
LOL, speciously? You don't think Hamas pressured their way into power with fear? If you really think they were elected fairly, you're nuts.
Shocking, G1 is a terrorist apologist who make excuses for folks who kill fellow Americans.
Are you serious?
Giantone
10-21-2023, 10:02 PM
Shocking, G1 is a terrorist apologist who make excuses for folks who kill fellow Americans.
Are you serious?
LOL, you're a sad little person..
Giantone
10-21-2023, 10:03 PM
Wow now you are sounding like MAGA. There was/is no evidence that HAMAs stole the election - heck no one even postulated that they had until I saw it on this board.
Now you're just spinning to save yourself.
That Guy
10-22-2023, 11:48 AM
lots of missing nuance. part of Hamas's rise was due to fatah (the previous ruling party) being super corrupt, and the main selling point was that they wouldn't be. A lot of the people there are also tired of living in something of a prison-state. Not saying there aren't concerns (Hamas has always been pretty okay with violence against civilians, not looking for coexistence, etc), but part of the reason they're in power is because of how disliked Israeli policies towards Palestinians are there and that no one seems to be doing much about it. (Also, egypt and jordan really DO NOT want palestinian refugees, and Iran likes using them, but doesn't actually care about them).
the cause/effect chain goes all the way back to the founding. it's interconnected and messy.
nonniey
10-22-2023, 11:56 AM
lots of missing nuance. part of Hamas's rise was due to fatah (the previous ruling party) being super corrupt, and the main selling point was that they wouldn't be. A lot of the people there are also tired of living in something of a prison-state. Not saying there aren't concerns (Hamas has always been pretty okay with violence against civilians, not looking for coexistence, etc), but part of the reason they're in power is because of how disliked Israeli policies towards Palestinians are there and that no one seems to be doing much about it. (Also, egypt and jordan really DO NOT want palestinian refugees, and Iran likes using them, but doesn't actually care about them).
the cause/effect chain goes all the way back to the founding. it's interconnected and messy.
Thanks that is all true. I'm just pointing out that the belief (that a couple of posters here have) that HAMAS is not popular in Gaza, were not put into power by the Palestinians or seized power is denying reality.
sdskinsfan2001
10-23-2023, 01:02 PM
Us sucking so bad makes me want to find something in regard to politics to be all pissed off about lol. But I'm in a pretty good place right now, so I got nothing.
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Giantone
10-23-2023, 09:05 PM
Joe Biden sucks.
Maybe but he ain't trump , thank God!