sdskinsfan2001
05-24-2023, 10:18 AM
You either raise the cap or you increase payroll taxes. The solutions aren't that hard to see.
Either way nothing is going to happen until it has to. Deadlines spur action. And both sides love to use SS as a political carrot.
Yep.
And both sides love to use [insert any political subject here] as a political carrot.
We're let down left and right, and have been for a long, long time. It's never about fixing anything. It's about blaming the other side and being re-elected.
nonniey
05-24-2023, 10:35 AM
Fixed for honesty.
Good grief spouting stuff you know isn't true, and that you know everyone in this forum (left and right) knows that you know isn't true.
nonniey
05-24-2023, 10:41 AM
You either raise the cap or you increase payroll taxes. The solutions aren't that hard to see.
Either way nothing is going to happen until it has to. Deadlines spur action. And both sides love to use SS as a political carrot.
The point is raising the cap does little to extend the solvency. The CBO showed you have to adjust the benefits if you really want to fix it long term. People are living longer, much longer than when SS was first implemented. Raising the age to receive the max retirement benefit for those that are currently young made the most sense.
BaltimoreSkins
05-24-2023, 10:52 AM
Patently and utterly false. Vote for Biden if you support the constitution, LOL. Biden hates the constitution. He would rip it up and pretend like it didn't exist in a heartbeat if he could. So would 99% of elected democrats and un-elected bureaucrats. A vote for Biden is a vote against America.
As a site/community, we should all vote for someone besides Trump or Biden. This whole accepting there are only 2 choices forever, has led us to exactly where we are today. A once great country fading to shit.
I don't think he hates the Constitution but will confess I really don't know. I doubt we have had a President in the last 100 years that would willingly accept term limits without the Constitution. I think Nonniey's point is valid though. Between the two only one has accepted operating in the confines of the Constitution.
sdskinsfan2001
05-24-2023, 10:59 AM
I don't think he hates the Constitution but will confess I really don't know. I doubt we have had a President in the last 100 years that would willingly accept term limits without the Constitution. I think Nonniey's point is valid though. Between the two only one has accepted operating in the confines of the Constitution.
Trump is a shithead. Won't get any argument from me there. But Biden is a terrible president now and will be in 2024. Voting for him is not the answer (neither is Trump). And I personally don't believe for a second, he gives 1 shit about the constitution.
nonniey
05-24-2023, 11:03 AM
Trump is a shithead. Won't get any argument from me there. But Biden is a terrible president now and will be in 2024. Voting for him is not the answer (neither is Trump). And I personally don't believe for a second, he gives 1 shit about the constitution.
Maybe not but as Baltimore pointed out he operates within the constitutions confines. Trump doesn't which makes him an enemy of that document.
The point is raising the cap does little to extend the solvency. The CBO showed you have to adjust the benefits if you really want to fix it long term. People are living longer, much longer than when SS was first implemented. Raising the age to receive the max retirement benefit for those that are currently young made the most sense.
Obviously raising the cap alone doesn't solve everything, but it's part of it along with possibly raising the full retirement age (it's already been slowing creeping up), modifying the benefit formula and/or making it means tested.
Giantone
05-24-2023, 11:15 AM
People like Behar simply don't want minorities to be successful imo. And especially don't want them to be successful and conservative. Doesn't help them make money or keep power.
LOL, people who believe that are racist themselves. IMO.
Giantone
05-24-2023, 11:18 AM
Good grief spouting stuff you know isn't true, and that you know everyone in this forum (left and right) knows that you know isn't true.
Yet , you let chico and others post as much BS as they want.
Chico23231
05-24-2023, 11:32 AM
Yet , you let chico and others post as much BS as they want.
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