RG3 and Gruden?

Not even close. For one thing Jones' team is winning, Snyder's isnt. Plus, if Dan Snyder was Jerry Jones he'd have drafted Johnny Manzel.

What I meant is that if Snyder thought he was a football man, he'd make himself the GM of the team the way Jones is.

Also, it is well known that Jerry Jones wanted to draft Manziel and his people stopped him from doing it. The difference between Jerry Jones and Snyder, in terms of how the team is operated, it seems that Jones has good people working under him.

What I meant is that if Snyder thought he was a football man, he'd make himself the GM of the team the way Jones is.

Also, it is well known that Jerry Jones wanted to draft Manziel and his people stopped him from doing it. The difference between Jerry Jones and Snyder, in terms of how the team is operated, it seems that Jones has good people working under him.

Obviously Jones isnt afraid to have people surrounding him that will say no. And he listens and take their advice. Maybe that's why his team is winning.

Snyder is surrounded by yes men so in the end Snyder would have told his people to STFU and just draft Manzel.

Apparently gruden said he believes he can build a team around colt Mccoy... ok he's just asking to get fired now.Just as Shanny tried to sell us on Rex and Beck in 2011. This is a franchise utterly without hope.

We need to hire a REAL General Manager that has 100% power to make all player and personnel decisions. Let him decide who stays and who goes independently of any input from other people. Snyder needs to let go and put his faith in a football professional. If the GM wants to fire Gruden and keep rg3 fine, vice versa, fine too, get rid of both, also fine. Until we have a real General Manager that knows how to build a team (strong o-line) we will continue to stink and be the butt of jokes.

What are the odds we get rid of both Gruden and RG3 as well as hire a GM like Bill Polan to remake the talent on this roster. It is just so clear that we need a strong football guy to come in and gut this team and rebuild from nothing.

Posted the exact same thing as you. Agree 100%!

Heard Michigan reached out to Jay Gruden for a job.

The one thing I'll say, Dan was smart enough to go get Joe Gibbs and let him restore order. He gave him complete control and Gibbs made the playoffs twice without a real QB. If Dan finds someone he think is capable, he will step aside and do it.

Problem is Dan just might not be willing to eat the $20M left on Gruden's salary.

Obviously Jones isnt afraid to have people surrounding him that will say no. And he listens and take their advice. Maybe that's why his team is winning.

Snyder is surrounded by yes men so in the end Snyder would have told his people to STFU and just draft Manzel.

So was Shanahan a yes man? Is Bruce Allen?

I know it is stupid for me to think that Snyder hasn't had a say on team decisions, but I think these two guys have been running things since Zorn was canned. If anything, Snyder is guilty of making bad hires.

So was Shanahan a yes man? Is Bruce Allen?

I know it is stupid for me to think that Snyder hasn't had a say on team decisions, but I think these two guys have been running things since Zorn was canned. If anything, Snyder is guilty of making bad hires.

Bruce Allen is the king of the yes men.

The one thing I'll say, Dan was smart enough to go get Joe Gibbs and let him restore order. He gave him complete control and Gibbs made the playoffs twice without a real QB. If Dan finds someone he think is capable, he will step aside and do it.

Problem is Dan just might not be willing to eat the $20M left on Gruden's salary.

The real problem is why give an unproven coach a 5 year 25 mill contract? It's not like Gruden was the toast of the NFL and everyone wanted to hire.