Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate


Schneed10
09-05-2008, 08:28 AM
come on. McCain himself will tell you this kind of forum isn't his forte. but, as schneed said, he kept it about him, and his accomplishments. i really commend him for that. and Palin did a good job the night before, it was going to be hard to better that. what made me laugh, is that all of a sudden McCain wants change in Washington. i think the old man knows he is done

He's not done according to polls, on a national scale Obama's lead is within the margin of error in most polls, which is statistic-speak for "it can go either way". Before his convention and the introduction of Palin, Obama had taken a significant lead in two battleground states: Minnesota and Iowa. But they were in a dead heat in Ohio, which has a bunch of electoral votes and figures to be a major factor in the upcoming election. It will be interesting to see if the GOP convention gives McCain a bump in Ohio.

Others to watch are Florida, which is also neck and neck, and Pennsylvania. PA is leaning more towards Obama, but the folks out in your neck of the woods, dmek, have a way of mobilizing on election day like no other.

JoeRedskin
09-05-2008, 09:53 AM
I think any Democrat who thinks this gonna be a cakewalk is deluding themselves. Regardless of Saden, Dmek and others who believe the Reps are out of touch, the underlying philosophy of the Republican party (smaller govt., personal responsibility) speaks to a significant number of reasonable and intelligent people (and please please PLEASE don't tell me how the Reps in power have not shown that - I AGREE).

As for the social issues, the far right of the Rep party is clearly at odds with a significant portion of the American center. The same could be said, however, about the far left of the Dem party.

This is going to be a close one. Maybe even "hanging chad" close.

dmek25
09-05-2008, 09:56 AM
the area i live in always votes republican. but i disagree about one poll. the Gallup poll has obama up 49%- 42%. probably the only poll i pay attention to( to me, it seems the most unbiased) and Minnesota? they haven't voted for a republican since 1972? i think the same thing that basically got old W. into the white house, will get Obama in. 8 years of one party is enough

dmek25
09-05-2008, 10:00 AM
Joe, i agree about the republicans philosophy. but i also think that John McCain has had more then his fair chance to stand up to the president, and the 90% voting record shows he didnt. i just think Americans, as a whole, are ready to try something, anything, that will be different. but we all know how people are with change. some do well with it. others shun it like the plague. and that itself will keep it close

Slingin Sammy 33
09-05-2008, 11:13 AM
It was great and he did not need a light show and 78,000 paid people cheering him on.
or giant stryofoam columns. It comes down to style vs. substance. Hopefully substance wins out.

12thMan
09-05-2008, 11:52 AM
or giant stryofoam columns. It comes down to style vs. substance. Hopefully substance wins out.

I tell you what, I hope they continue with styrofoam columns jab, because the Obama campaign raised $11 million yesterday.

Slingin Sammy 33
09-05-2008, 12:13 PM
I tell you what, I hope they continue with styrofoam columns jab, because the Obama campaign raised $11 million yesterday.
As long as Palin's taking the jabs I think the GOP will be fine with fundraising, from the blurbs I've seen so far she's doubled the rate of McCain fundraising.

Obama's campaign is a fundraising juggernaut without a doubt. The Hollywood crowd is definitely stepping up as usual:

FOXNews.com - Pop Tarts: Hollywood Stars React to Sarah Palin, Daughter’s Pregnancy - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417262,00.html)
About halfway down.

On a separate note, curious why Oprah is allegedly balking at having Palin on, pretty big risk to her ratings IMO (not that she really cares at $ 100M+/yr.). I would think she would at least put up the appearance of being impartial & fair and let all voices be heard.

jsarno
09-05-2008, 12:24 PM
I would think she would at least put up the appearance of being impartial & fair and let all voices be heard.

:rofl:
HAHAHAHAHA...K.

saden1
09-05-2008, 12:36 PM
As long as Palin's taking the jabs I think the GOP will be fine with fundraising, from the blurbs I've seen so far she's doubled the rate of McCain fundraising.

Obama's campaign is a fundraising juggernaut without a doubt. The Hollywood crowd is definitely stepping up as usual:

FOXNews.com - Pop Tarts: Hollywood Stars React to Sarah Palin, Daughter’s Pregnancy - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417262,00.html)
About halfway down.

On a separate note, curious why Oprah is allegedly balking at having Palin on, pretty big risk to her ratings IMO (not that she really cares at $ 100M+/yr.). I would think she would at least put up the appearance of being impartial & fair and let all voices be heard.

Why should she have her on? She has already chosen sides. It's not like Nascar/Hockey moms are her base anywho. Personally, I would have her on, put on my papa bear hat on and ask her the tough questions.

BTW you're giving way too much credit to Hollywood.

Slingin Sammy 33
09-05-2008, 01:14 PM
Why should she have her on? She has already chosen sides. It's not like Nascar/Hockey moms are her base anywho. Personally, I would have her on, put on my papa bear hat on and ask her the tough questions.

BTW you're giving way too much credit to Hollywood.
Nothing wrong with Oprah chosoing sides, but in the interest of appearing somewhat impartial I would think the smart move would be to take your approach, have her on, not trash her, but ask tough questions.

IMO, while not a career-ender, why take the risk of pissing off even 10% of your audience. I'm sure Obama understands her position in the media and won't cut her out of the martini/arugula salad parties (which BTW was a hilarious post).

You're right there, Hollywood is just a drop in Obama's bucket, that 2 million number of individual donors is impressive.

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