Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate


NM Redskin
09-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Gina Gershon Strips Down Sarah Palin (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff)

saden1
09-11-2008, 10:03 PM
Is anyone watching the forum tonight?


Yes, the sad part is it's a forum to encourage community service.

Very funny stuff:
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SmootSmack
09-11-2008, 10:22 PM
Saden:

I do not think it was fair to ask Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?" The "Bush Doctrine" has never been clearly defined; it encompasses several different ideas. I spent less than 5 minutes googling the "Bush Doctrine" and, according to a few articles in well known sources (e.g., the WaPo), the "Bush Doctrine" has been used to refer to the notion that: (1) terrorists must be defeated; (2) our nation has the right to wage preventative wars; (3) allowing terrorists to reside in your country is the same as supporting terrorism; (4) it is okay to use force unilaterally and in the face of opposition by international organizations such as the UN; and (5) it is okay to use force against any state that is trying to acquire nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

It was a vague and dumb question that can't be answered with asking a question like, "Could you tell me what you mean by the 'Bush Doctrine?'" To me, it sounds like a question that is clearly designed to make Palin look dumb because there isn't a real answer to it.

I think you're wasting your time. saden doesn't care.

saden1
09-11-2008, 10:36 PM
Come on, she didn't even have a clue until he threw her a bone. If you don't expect the VP to know what it is then you're cheating yourself. S h e d i d h a v e t h e t a l k i n g p o i n t s d o w n t h o u g h.

Now this is a man that knows his Doctrines:

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saden1
09-11-2008, 10:39 PM
I think you're wasting your time. saden doesn't care.

Just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't care. I care about your well-being. How is the fiance buddy? Did you guys get married? Did you manage to find the right band?

GTripp0012
09-11-2008, 11:20 PM
No, it's not about my opinion. I want peace worldwide, and I don't really have a problem paying for it, if I thought we could achieve it.

Understand that I'm not saying we couldn't achieve peace in Iraq -- I just don't think it is why we are there. In fact, I believe everything our government does (and most/all others) is rooted in self-interest.Alright, care to fathom a guess at what the self-interest is?

I'm just not really seeing it.

GTripp0012
09-11-2008, 11:28 PM
To that end, a part of me strongly leans toward voting for Obama hoping that a significant setback for the GOP will better them down the line.This is the exact 100% true reason that I can't just vote for McCain and be done with it. I'm undecided because I feel it would be in the best interest of the long-term success of the Republican Party to lose this election.

But Barack Obama is certainly not the man to lead the U.S. to greener pastures. And, come election day, I'm probably going to favor the short term success of the U.S. over the long term success of a single party.

I guess if "Country First" has any practical meaning, that's it. But I'm still not happy about it.

GTripp0012
09-11-2008, 11:29 PM
I'd like to believe that McCain sees this as his last chance (which of course it is) and that he is doing to whatever it takes to win and get in the White House. And once he gets there he will be the McCain he claims he is, not the one he's seemingly forced to be to get voted.I 100% believe this, but this also might apply to Obama to an extent.

GTripp0012
09-11-2008, 11:32 PM
He's starting off with a lie and not being himself so he can get elected? How is anyone suppose derive comfort from that? That's Country First?That's politics!

GhettoDogAllStars
09-11-2008, 11:33 PM
Alright, care to fathom a guess at what the self-interest is?

I'm just not really seeing it.

Well, National Security is the reason most politicians would give. I don't buy it though.

Really, I don't have many worthy ideas -- most just seem too conspiratorial (i.e.: defense contracts, etc.). So, it's hard for me to see to, but I think self-interest is the most likely motive.

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