saden1
09-20-2008, 09:13 PM
This post is dedicated to my friend from across the aisle firstdown:
lM3oww9Vk-c
It worked before, why not once again?
lM3oww9Vk-c
It worked before, why not once again?
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saden1 09-20-2008, 09:13 PM This post is dedicated to my friend from across the aisle firstdown: lM3oww9Vk-c It worked before, why not once again? Beemnseven 09-21-2008, 09:07 AM This post is dedicated to my friend from across the aisle firstdown: It worked before, why not once again? Gotta love the insightful eloquence of the Republican Machine -- label the opponent as a 'liberal' or 'elitist' and just leave it at that. A question for you Republicans: If you needed brain surgery, would you prefer an elite neurosurgeon? Or a mediocre, run-of-the-mill neurosurgeon? Slingin Sammy 33 09-21-2008, 12:52 PM Gotta love the insightful eloquence of the Republican Machine -- label the opponent as a 'liberal' or 'elitist' and just leave it at that. A question for you Republicans: If you needed brain surgery, would you prefer an elite neurosurgeon? Or a mediocre, run-of-the-mill neurosurgeon?The Dems have plenty of labels for their opponents that are thrown around as well: corporate elites, oil companies, "rich, old white guys", profitmongers, warmongers, chickenhawks, etc. etc. Can't speak for other Republicans, but I would want an elite neurosurgeon(def b.), not an elitist neurosurgeon. elite: a. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: b. The best or most skilled members of a group elitist: someone who believes in rule by an elite group elitism: 1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. 2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class. Beemnseven 09-21-2008, 08:33 PM The Dems have plenty of labels for their opponents that are thrown around as well: corporate elites, oil companies, "rich, old white guys", profitmongers, warmongers, chickenhawks, etc. etc. Can't speak for other Republicans, but I would want an elite neurosurgeon(def b.), not an elitist neurosurgeon. elite: a. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: b. The best or most skilled members of a group elitist: someone who believes in rule by an elite group elitism: 1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. 2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class. Would you have called Thomas Jefferson an elitist? How about Alexander Hamilton or James Madison? Using the definitions you provided, would you prefer to be ruled by an elite group, or by incompetant buffoons? Slingin Sammy 33 09-22-2008, 07:50 AM Would you have called Thomas Jefferson an elitist? How about Alexander Hamilton or James Madison? Using the definitions you provided, would you prefer to be ruled by an elite group, or by incompetant buffoons? I know we're splitting hairs, but there is a key difference in the definitions. elite is simply a description of a person or group. The problem I have with Elitism is: The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. 2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class. firstdown 09-22-2008, 09:37 AM You too. Have fun fishing. Hail to the Redskins! Well Saturday night we ate some of those oil infested fish. We battered them up and dunked them in 375 degrees oil and they were mighty tasty. firstdown 09-22-2008, 09:41 AM This post is dedicated to my friend from across the aisle firstdown: lM3oww9Vk-c It worked before, why not once again? His own voting record stands for itself and he votes very liberal. Whats any different in pointing that out and Obama pointing out McCains voting record with GB? Seems to me as one in the same. saden1 09-22-2008, 10:49 AM Maybe Palin shouldn't be the only one that shouldn't be taking questions? RDzToc9xbuU Beemnseven 09-22-2008, 11:47 AM His own voting record stands for itself and he votes very liberal. Whats any different in pointing that out and Obama pointing out McCains voting record with GB? Seems to me as one in the same. Don't you find it a bit curious that whoever the democratic nominee turns out to be, that he or she is always "the most liberal" candidate as rated by some institute or think tank? How is it that this particular label always coincides with the presidential election and conveniently changes no matter who it is? If Hillary had won, don't you think everyone on the Republican side would say the very same about her? Beemnseven 09-22-2008, 11:56 AM I know we're splitting hairs, but there is a key difference in the definitions. elite is simply a description of a person or group. The problem I have with Elitism is: The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. 2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class. I understand the distinction you're trying to make, but couldn't it be said that the Bush family ranks right up there with the very group you have such a problem with? How about McCain? His father and grandfather were both Navy Admirals. He married into wealth, and has spent nearly 30 years in Washington. You don't think he perceives himself of a higher social status than the rest of us peons? I'm not a fan of Obama, but doesn't he strike you as just the opposite of the "elitists" -- coming from relative obscurity in a middle class family, and only recently achieving any sort of status by being elected to the Senate? What about Bill Clinton? Come on -- he came from the lower class backwoods in Arkansas for crying out loud. Would you classify either of these people as "elitists" ?? The last republicans who came from similar roots would be Reagan and Nixon. But since then, they've been charter members of the "country club elite". |
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