FRPLG
08-29-2008, 12:54 PM
You are talking about a place far older and wiser than the US. I hate to say it but we haven't grown up yet. We are still adolescents in the eyes of the rest of the world. That's not a knock on America, it's just fact.
I think Thatcher is universally regarded very highly. Not just in the UK and Europe. I understand your points and I agree that it exists here but I just don't agree that her being female actually matters. It sure doesn't matter to me at all. And the fact that she is attractive and could get the "horndog" vote is meaningless to me. There are "horndogs" everywhere. Not just here.
Anyone else think it is ironic that McCain, the painted womanizer, choose a younger attractive female as is his running mate? I wonder if CIndy said "Oh no you di'nt!"
Monkeydad
08-29-2008, 12:55 PM
You are talking about a place far older and wiser than the US. I hate to say it but we haven't grown up yet. We are still adolescents in the eyes of the rest of the world. That's not a knock on America, it's just fact.
Are you Barack Obama posing as a redhead on here? Wow...
That "America is worse than Europe" theme...I'm sick of it.
BleedBurgundy
08-29-2008, 12:56 PM
It's about quality not quantity.
I think you can say the quality of the positions the individuals in question were appointed to is pretty damn high. The quality of the individuals however... that's another story.
Monkeydad
08-29-2008, 12:56 PM
It's about quality not quantity.
Colin Powell, Condi Rice, others aren't quality?
You could say that if Clinton's quantity wasn't zero. :D
FRPLG
08-29-2008, 12:56 PM
I don't like McCain or Obama, but frankly I think McCain's VP selection is brilliant compared to Obama's.
Biden seems like nothing but more of the same Washington political garbage.
McCain has managed to solidify his base of evangelicals, pro-lifers and NRA members. Mock them all you want or disagree with them all you want, but you can't deny they make up a massive portion of the vote.
At the same time he's brought in someone young and fresh to combat his decidedly aged image. A pretty face doesn't hurt either. Again, you can disagree all you want, but my experience in marketing and advertising has taught me that a pretty face goes a long way in convincing an audience of a point.
Look how much Obama's youth and charisma have gotten him - McCain getting a dose of that when he's seriously lacking in that area helps tremendously.
I think two things are very interesting about this: assuming Nader doesn't make some kind of surprise end-around, whoever wins the election will make history. First black president or first female vice president any way you slice it. Fascinating.
Second, of the four (Obama, Biden, McCain, Palin), as far as I know Palin is the only one with actual experience running and administrating a government. The other three are Senators and, as far as I know, never spent any time actually running a local or state government.
Once again this race gets very, very interesting. Either way we're watching history in the making.
Good post man. Intersting indeed. I do love the game of politics almost as much as football. Being from Washington must have ingrained that in me.
FRPLG
08-29-2008, 12:58 PM
I think Hess is way off base in her thoughts here, but I don't think calling her "babe" helps the case against her thoughts.
Again with the joking. It was intended satirically.
saden1
08-29-2008, 01:00 PM
Colin Powell, Condi Rice, others aren't quality?
You could say that if Clinton's quantity wasn't zero. :D
Colin Powell? Yes with an astrik. Condi Rice? Absolutely Not! Senior Alberto? No comment.
Monkeydad
08-29-2008, 01:03 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.teamzx2.com/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Obama released this statement, "She is not the change we need."
This man can not put a rational thought together.
FRPLG
08-29-2008, 01:03 PM
I've never understood what Condi Rice did to be so derided?
And Colin Powell gets no asterisk from me. If he had been given a larger voice in Bush's administration he'd have been a superstar. I love the guy and see Bush's failure to use him as a resource over Rumsfeld as his biggest political screwup. Powel is infinitely more capable of guiding, leading and making the right decisions than Rummy ever was.
Lady Brave
08-29-2008, 01:05 PM
You guys shouldn't be so quick to chastise Hess for her views. Though our reasons differ at bit, I'm not crazy about a female candidate for President/VP either. My views are probably more religious based, which I won't debate anyone over. Let's just say I prefer a man to be in the highest positions of authority.