Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave


joethiesmanfan
05-25-2010, 01:59 PM
Look, I am not going to say I trust BP, and I certainly don't trust the Gov't. BUT, they are losing money due to this spill, will they still make a whole helluva lot, yes, but it's ridiculous to assume that BP sees any type of gain by letting this spill go on any longer than necessary. All 4 of your points have basic validity, but even with all of that, any company that has a major accident, is going to do what it can to get the accident site fixed and productive again.

Let's defend BP ladies and gentlemen.

over the mountain
05-25-2010, 02:09 PM
The idea that BP isnt doing everything in its power to stop the underwater oil eruption just flies in the face of reason and logic. If BP makes money off oil, why would they sit idlely by and allow billions (im guessing but the value of the oil lost will probably be in the billions) of dollars float away?

this disaster is a huge nightmare for BP. im guessing when this is all said and done, they will merge with another company and change their name.

joethiesmanfan
05-25-2010, 02:13 PM
The idea that BP isnt doing everything in its power to stop the underwater oil eruption just flies in the face of reason and logic. If BP makes money off oil, why would they sit idlely by and allow billions (im guessing but the value of the oil lost will probably be in the billions) of dollars float away?

this disaster is a huge nightmare for BP. im guessing when this is all said and done, they will merge with another company and change their name.

Because its one mile beneath the sea. You act like corporations maek decisons based on logic. theya re steady trying to suck that oil up think about every attempt so far. No attempt to block the well just attempts to siphon.

SolidSnake84
05-25-2010, 02:16 PM
The bottom line is that its been 34 days where basically nothing has been accomplished. That's unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination.

The answer is blatantly obvious. BP stands to lose nothing by delaying anything. Some half-assed attempt at fixing the spill will eventually work due to process of elimination, and then BP and the media will go all "yay for BP" because they fixed the mistake.

People as a whole are dumb and will forget that BP caused the spill, they will just be happy that BP fixed it. That in turn boosts the companies image and the oil industry as a whole.

Especially the poor people down in the gulf affected areas. They will care 2 shits about it once the BP checks start rolling in. There are legitimate people who are suffering and deserve the aid checks, but bet your last bottom dollar that both BP and the government are looking at ways to profitize this somehow.

Did anyone pay attention about the 33 cent per barrel tax? WE WILL PAY HIGHER PRICES AT THE PUMPS. That tax will pay for BP to keep cleaning the spill, so they don't absorb all of the cost from their own money. Gov't and Oil companies go hand in hand, and when we start paying much more at the pump, their profits go up again. And if you don't believe me about the tax look it up. Obama is trying to push it as we speak and they could vote it into law by the end of next week!

CRedskinsRule
05-25-2010, 02:25 PM
Where has critical thinking and reason gone in the days of the internet? It truly saddens me that nearly all political dialogue is now so full of ideology, and lacks alot of semblance of rational thought.

JTF - I defended both the gov't (which is a rarity for me) and BP. An accident of this magnitude is not easily managed, and both parties are in fact trying to get control of it.

SS84 - Crude sells at about $80 a barrel right now. 33 cents on $80, is a blip and if it helps clean the environment then it's probably worth it. Every human depends on oil for many various things, a 33 cent per barrel increase ain't gonna kill us. Of course they won't limit it, and the government in the end will collect far more than the clean up cost but still lets not act like the 33cents is an inordinate burden. Of course we will end up paying for it. BP is going to raise prices to cover their operating costs, and maintain the profits their investors expect.

For any other knee jerkers out there: An Introduction to Critical Thinking (http://www.freeinquiry.com/critical-thinking.html)

over the mountain
05-25-2010, 02:26 PM
Because its one mile beneath the sea. You act like corporations maek decisons based on logic. theya re steady trying to suck that oil up think about every attempt so far. No attempt to block the well just attempts to siphon.

What has BP or the gov't said in response to this? is there a good reason why they wouldnt want to try and block the hole? idk but maybe blocking the hole could make things worse.

i not nearly as up to date on this, but has anyone heard or read a reason why, so far, the curative attempts dont include blocking the leak?

ill look it up.

joethiesmanfan
05-25-2010, 02:27 PM
The bottom line is that its been 34 days where basically nothing has been accomplished. That's unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination.

The answer is blatantly obvious. BP stands to lose nothing by delaying anything. Some half-assed attempt at fixing the spill will eventually work due to process of elimination, and then BP and the media will go all "yay for BP" because they fixed the mistake.

People as a whole are dumb and will forget that BP caused the spill, they will just be happy that BP fixed it. That in turn boosts the companies image and the oil industry as a whole.

Especially the poor people down in the gulf affected areas. They will care 2 shits about it once the BP checks start rolling in. There are legitimate people who are suffering and deserve the aid checks, but bet your last bottom dollar that both BP and the government are looking at ways to profitize this somehow.

Did anyone pay attention about the 33 cent per barrel tax? WE WILL PAY HIGHER PRICES AT THE PUMPS. That tax will pay for BP to keep cleaning the spill, so they don't absorb all of the cost from their own money. Gov't and Oil companies go hand in hand, and when we start paying much more at the pump, their profits go up again. And if you don't believe me about the tax look it up. Obama is trying to push it as we speak and they could vote it into law by the end of next week!


This is going to look biblical when it's over. Those dispersants are killing everything it comes in contact with. Any industry that controls the life blood of all the country should be under governemnt control in my opnion. When you have 300 million peopl dependant on a business owned by 3 corporations, the coproporation take on a role simiilar to government.

SolidSnake84
05-25-2010, 02:29 PM
Where has critical thinking and reason gone in the days of the internet? It truly saddens me that nearly all political dialogue is now so full of ideology, and lacks alot of semblance of rational thought.

JTF - I defended both the gov't (which is a rarity for me) and BP. An accident of this magnitude is not easily managed, and both parties are in fact trying to get control of it.

SS84 - Crude sells at about $80 a barrel right now. 33 cents on $80, is a blip and if it helps clean the environment then it's probably worth it. Every human depends on oil for many various things, a 33 cent per barrel increase ain't gonna kill us. Of course they won't limit it, and the government in the end will collect far more than the clean up cost but still lets not act like the 33cents is an inordinate burden. Of course we will end up paying for it. BP is going to raise prices to cover their operating costs, and maintain the profits their investors expect.

For any other knee jerkers out there: An Introduction to Critical Thinking (http://www.freeinquiry.com/critical-thinking.html)

I agree with your comments to me. I feel though, that making US pay for something we didn't bring on ourselves is wrong. BP should pay for this in full, all of the cleanup costs, and the aftermath. And if it kills them as a company, then so be it.

The American people have suffered from this enough. We shouldnt have to pay 1 cent for something they did.

over the mountain
05-25-2010, 02:33 PM
BP unveils fifth strategy to plug Gulf of Mexico oil leak - Business News, Business - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bp-unveils-fifth-strategy-to-plug-gulf-of-mexico-oil-leak-1982091.html)

i googled "why hasnt BP tried to block oil leak" and came up with a zillion articles re. BP's efforts to block/plug the oil leak.

the one above i read, it covers the steps and attempts BP has taken so far. its from england and glosses over things but im sure an inquiring mind could read more detailed articles re. their efforts to plug the hole.

So,the idea that BP hasnt tried to plug or block the hole is far from the truth it seems.

MTK
05-25-2010, 02:38 PM
I think it's safe to say everyone involved has a strong interest in getting the leak fixed sooner rather than later. The idea that BP isn't losing anything or will quickly recoup the costs of this is ridiculous.

I heard the latest idea for a fix is to shoot Rush Limbaugh into the leak. He should have no problem plugging it up. :)

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