Is it? I strongly disagree. Where the blame falls has nothing to do with the fact that this disaster is devastating families, wildlife, and the fishing industry. There is an entire eco-system and plenty of families that need or will soon need a lot of help.
Again, that's BP's problem and financial responsibility.
The difference is pretty clear to me.
I can't speak for what George Clooney is doing, but there are other celebs leading fundraising efforts.
Slingin Sammy 33
05-28-2010, 01:24 PM
The problem really lies with BP. The gap between them and other oil companies when it comes to safety violations is astounding. I think it's like a 700 violations gap between BP at #1 and Sunoco (with fewer than 10 in the past three years, which is 10 too many of course)
Here's a good read
Renegade Refiner: OSHA Says BP Has “Systemic Safety Problem” - The Center for Public Integrity (http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2085/)
But yeah, I definitely agree that had this been during the last administration there would be a lot of stories about the WH's ties to Big Oil. That's neither here nor there at this point though. They could blame me for all I care, just fix the problemGood article, problem with the OSHA enforcement is all they can do is levy fines. What's $ 90M to BP, it would cost them more to fix the violations. I'm not arguing it's right, I'm just stating what is.
MMS enforcement could've shut them down but their enforcement efforts are suspect at best, grossly and intentionally negligent at worst.
joethiesmanfan
05-28-2010, 01:25 PM
Let's pray on it. Seems like the right forgot about praying this time. This is the type stuff you pray for. You don't pray to rule the world or to kill a president.
GMScud
05-28-2010, 01:29 PM
Good article, problem with the OSHA enforcement is all they can do is levy fines. What's $ 90M to BP, it would cost them more to fix the violations. I'm not arguing it's right, I'm just stating what is.
MMS enforcement could've shut them down but their enforcement efforts are suspect at best, grossly and intentionally negligent at worst.
One of the few things the left and right seem to agree on is that the MMS needs sweeping administrative change. They're a shitshow.
GMScud
05-28-2010, 01:33 PM
Let's pray on it. Seems like the right forgot about praying this time. This is the type stuff you pray for. You don't pray to rule the world or to kill a president.
Huh? Some of your posts are really good. Others are head scratchers.
joethiesmanfan
05-28-2010, 01:42 PM
Huh? Some of your posts are really good. Others are head scratchers.
Point is: Man and science can't fix this. It is time to pray. The right are always claiming to be so religous and righteous. For an event like this oil spill we must pray. Man has bit off more than man can chew. We are not advanced enough yet for this resource.
What if there's no God? Then we're just F'd I guess.
Not to open a huge can of worms or anything. :)
joethiesmanfan
05-28-2010, 01:51 PM
What if there's no God? Then we're just F'd I guess.
Not to open a huge can of worms or anything. :)
I know there is a god I have been to Miami beach, from what I saw the one diety really really really favors Cuba.
Slingin Sammy 33
05-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Point is: Man and science can't fix this. It is time to pray. The right are always claiming to be so religous and righteous. For an event like this oil spill we must pray. Man has bit off more than man can chew. We are not advanced enough yet for this resource.I would sure hope everyone on both sides of the aisle is saying a few prayers about this.
But it will be man and science that do fix this problem....a little "luck" for the non-religious, or divine intervention certainly couldn't hurt though.
So much for that top kill eh?
:doh: