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joethiesmanfan 06-02-2010, 08:46 AM Never mind that the whole thing began with an explosion that killed 11 people
True, the tragic explosion RIP. To the peole who want every dredge in America I feel your pain, but the world is not gonna stop for you. It's unforntunate. It's sad.
SolidSnake84 06-02-2010, 08:57 AM You'd have just thought that they would have some safety method in place that could have prevented this, for example, the blowout preventer having a manual mode of some kind where it could be manipulated with the robots. Basically a backup plan for the backup plan. I know the robots tried to get it to work, but it seems like they pretty much knew that they had long odds from day one. The whole operation just seemed to be too dangerous in the event that something went wrong. and something did go wrong.
I dont get the feeling of BP being calculated and measured, as some people on this thread have alleged. I see a company that is scrambling for solutions they never possessed in the first place, a company who is dealing with a staining public image, and now a company who may face criminal charges. Tony Heyward, BP's CEO, looks more and more gaunt each day. That man didn't cause this problem, but i'm sure he will end up losing his job over it, and could possibly go to jail....it's just hell in the gulf right now.
We are past the limits of science, or what man can do to fix this. Man has no way to fix this. Nothing short of divine intervention will save the people of the gulf. It's time to Pray. God is the only person who can fix what they did.
budw38 06-02-2010, 08:59 AM Maybe , just maybe this is more reason why we should drill on shore , like ANWAR and other area's where we have oil/shale . We will likely not find a replacement for oil anytime soon , sadly . R.I.P. to those who lost their lives on that rig .
Could get worse:
Undersea oil pipelines vulnerable to hurricanes - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/hurricanes/2010-06-01-oil-hurricanes_N.htm)
firstdown 06-02-2010, 09:47 AM Meanwhile, in Utopia World we expand drilling and we keep a beautiful coast. In reality it's just another trade off. Life is about trade offs in Capitalism. What's more important that damn oil, or the Gulf. Different people will have different answers regardless of what their religious affiliation or political , it's that simple . You want the oil? Things like this will happen. We know ain't nobody turning any money down. Let us pray for the environment. Forgive us oh lord for not being good stewards of the blessing you bestowed upon the now almost defunct Native Amercians. Please forgive us for our greed and insolence.
You act like this was cause by capitalism. So I guess all the other types of goverments don't use oil or need oil?
firstdown 06-02-2010, 10:10 AM You'd have just thought that they would have some safety method in place that could have prevented this, for example, the blowout preventer having a manual mode of some kind where it could be manipulated with the robots. Basically a backup plan for the backup plan. I know the robots tried to get it to work, but it seems like they pretty much knew that they had long odds from day one. The whole operation just seemed to be too dangerous in the event that something went wrong. and something did go wrong.
I dont get the feeling of BP being calculated and measured, as some people on this thread have alleged. I see a company that is scrambling for solutions they never possessed in the first place, a company who is dealing with a staining public image, and now a company who may face criminal charges. Tony Heyward, BP's CEO, looks more and more gaunt each day. That man didn't cause this problem, but i'm sure he will end up losing his job over it, and could possibly go to jail....it's just hell in the gulf right now.
We are past the limits of science, or what man can do to fix this. Man has no way to fix this. Nothing short of divine intervention will save the people of the gulf. It's time to Pray. God is the only person who can fix what they did.
See that's what I don't get. They have the shut off valve which failed then after that its like now what do we do. I'm not talking just BP because it seems that no one has the technology to deal with this issue other then drilling a second well which should have been done along withe the main well. I would have thought that there would have been strick goverment regulation making sure they could handle a problem like this. I think this is a good case to prove that our congress is getting paid off to look the other way. Both parties are guilty because this did not start with Obama or Bush we have been drilling for oil for much longer.
How about some strict internal safety measures from BP to begin with? Interesting that some are suddenly in favor of more gov't involvement.
CRedskinsRule 06-02-2010, 10:31 AM How about some strict internal safety measures from BP to begin with? Interesting that some are suddenly in favor of more gov't involvement.
I am one who favors as little gov't involvement as possible. That said, I have no problems with punitive fines, and possibly criminal neglect charges, against BP execs who allowed the lax security in this case. The only real regulation I would want to see is a relief well requirement for deep water wells (what ever deep water is defined as) and a required approved Emergency Action Plan(EAP) and I imagine the EAP requirement already exists. Unfortunately, when huge mistakes happen Government is required to step in. Then it's impossible to get them back out again :(
SolidSnake84 06-02-2010, 10:31 AM See that's what I don't get. They have the shut off valve which failed then after that its like now what do we do. I'm not talking just BP because it seems that no one has the technology to deal with this issue other then drilling a second well which should have been done along withe the main well. I would have thought that there would have been strick goverment regulation making sure they could handle a problem like this. I think this is a good case to prove that our congress is getting paid off to look the other way. Both parties are guilty because this did not start with Obama or Bush we have been drilling for oil for much longer.
as far as i'm concerned, it goes back really as far as Dick Cheney and George H.W. Bush in the early 90's.....
firstdown 06-02-2010, 10:38 AM as far as i'm concerned, it goes back really as far as Dick Cheney and George H.W. Bush in the early 90's.....
Dude they have been drilling for oil much longer then that. What do you think they had a way to stop these leaks and when Bush took office the technology just disappeared. Its apparent now that no one has had any safty plan for these types of disaster.
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