Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave


saden1
04-30-2010, 12:50 PM
Set solid standards, regulate "appropriately", penalize those who fail to meet standards, and utilize our resources effectively. Seems like a rational policy could be achieved. No?

In light of the havoc disasters wreck a better policy IMO would be "set rigorous standards, regulate strongly, and penalize severely those who fail to meet standards, and utilize our resources effectively." There is no excuse to cut corners in these matters.

CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 12:57 PM
In light of the havoc disasters wreck a better policy IMO would be "set rigorous standards, regulate strongly, and penalize severely those who fail to meet standards, and utilize our resources effectively." There is no excuse to cut corners in these matters.

Ok .

firstdown
04-30-2010, 12:57 PM
In light of the havoc disasters wreck a better policy IMO would be "set rigorous standards, regulate strongly, and penalize severely those who fail to meet standards, and utilize our resources effectively." There is no excuse to cut corners in these matters.
I'm sure the goverment has regulation after regulation and I would not be surprised if there is not a goverment official on each offshore rig. I have a buddy who has done some work on offshore riggs and when I see him I have a bunch of questions I want to ask him. He does not work for an oil company but he is one of the top guys brought in when they have something like this and he watches over the diver crews to make sure they a safe and follow all the safty rules.

Chico23231
04-30-2010, 01:03 PM
Did you even read the article and all that BP is doing to contain and clean this up. The reason the leak is so bad is that a safty valve that is supose to cut off the oil failed. If we find out that is because BP did not maitain the equipment then bash away but until you actuall have some facts stop making stuff up.

making stuff up? I can bash whoever I want and "the leak is so bad" is not an acceptable excuse.

There asking the government for help now, that could be another disaster.

CRedskinsRule
04-30-2010, 01:07 PM
making stuff up? I can bash whoever I want and "the leak is so bad" is not an acceptable excuse.

There asking the government for help now, that could be another disaster.

logical and rational debate in the United States is alive and well. Hallelujah

tryfuhl
04-30-2010, 01:15 PM
Not necessarily.....

"Last month, Obama proposed new offshore drilling in the Atlantic Ocean from Delaware to central Florida, plus the northern waters of Alaska. Obama also wanted Congress to lift a drilling ban in the oil-rich eastern Gulf of Mexico, 125 miles from Florida beaches. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas of the Gulf of Mexico."

I believe BP is responsible for the entire cleanup bill based on laws enacted after the Valdez spill.
Which was just a compromise in order to help get the energy reform motions going. This is a live illustration of the costs of compromise when it comes to these things. What if 5 new rigs go up, 3 are built by the same company, have a design flaw and all of them end up failing, or even just two at once?

Meanwhile, just like the bailout, the Republicans will pretend that they never wanted it or pushed for it most likely.

tryfuhl
04-30-2010, 01:17 PM
Well as a person who is for offshore drilling I want a full investigation into this accident and how to prevent this from happening again before they start drilling off VA.
replace VA with anywhere

firstdown
04-30-2010, 02:24 PM
Which was just a compromise in order to help get the energy reform motions going. This is a live illustration of the costs of compromise when it comes to these things. What if 5 new rigs go up, 3 are built by the same company, have a design flaw and all of them end up failing, or even just two at once?

Meanwhile, just like the bailout, the Republicans will pretend that they never wanted it or pushed for it most likely.

That will be spinless republicans who like to take the easy way out instead of fighting for what they believe. From what I read it seems we have already learned from this spill and what went wrong. If what I read was correct these oil rigs have to emergency cut off valves. The main valve will autmatically shot off the flow of oil when something goes wrong and that valve failed. The back up valve has to be shot off manually but the rig collapsed around the valve and they cannot reach it. If you remember when this first happened they thought we would just have a small oil spill but now that they cannot shut off these valves it has become a real mess.

joethiesmanfan
04-30-2010, 02:50 PM
That will be spinless republicans who like to take the easy way out instead of fighting for what they believe. From what I read it seems we have already learned from this spill and what went wrong. If what I read was correct these oil rigs have to emergency cut off valves. The main valve will autmatically shot off the flow of oil when something goes wrong and that valve failed. The back up valve has to be shot off manually but the rig collapsed around the valve and they cannot reach it. If you remember when this first happened they thought we would just have a small oil spill but now that they cannot shut off these valves it has become a real mess.

Bash BP hell yeah...
If the rig does not fail, BP profits. But when a mistake happens it affects us all.
That's a trend I am getting tired of. It is not capitalism at all.
Invade Iraq if they greet us a liberators then Big Oil is super wealthy. If it fails we are all in danger from terrorists.
Wall Street casino mentality. If they win they win not we win. If they fail we fail not them.
This time they went to far. There is not enough money in the world to fix this mess. The Gulf of Mexico is a gift from god we sacrificed for profits. Not profits for our country but profits for some share holders. but our country is gonna pay the balance.

Free Market jerks are liars. they don't want capitalism they are taking advantage. Capitalism is taking a risk, they are not taking any "alone" yet if the gamble works they "profit alone".

This is a new form of socialism. Collectivist risk individual profits.

Chico23231
04-30-2010, 03:03 PM
logical and rational debate in the United States is alive and well. Hallelujah

To say "im making stuff up" applies more to your quote of "logical and rational debate" above than any of my posts. Rather someone say they disagree. In regards to bashing, yeah it may be premature but pretty appropriate when we look at the scale of this.

Sorry if I offend, but I get passionate when i see negligence like this, with a company who have the resources and big money behind them. I expect better.

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