Come up with a new name for the Redskins


FrenchSkin
07-04-2020, 07:50 PM
I personally like the RED TAILS, because they have a great story and they were in the Army Air Corps in WWII. However, many people have never heard of the Tuskegee Airmen. I actually was in a USAF unit in Iraq, called the 332 Air Expeditionary Wing. They called themselves the Red Tails ( which what that unit did to all their airplanes in WWII - they painted there vertical stabilizer Red, so it could be easily recognized). When Air Force units are deployed to combat locations, the unit they go to is the same number and name of a FAMOUS Air Force unit.

BUT, I think Snyder is going with the Native American theme. The problem with WARRIORS or BRAVES is that name is used by a team in another sport. That includes the Generals - a team that loses to the Harlem Globetrotters.

I think he will go for a real Native American tribe. There are HUNDREDS of tribes to choose from, so I think it will be a FAMOUS and well-known tribe. That gets you down to a much smaller list:

CHEYENNE
APACHE
SIOUX
NAVAHO
COMMANCHE
CREEK
MOHAWK

There are no major sports teams with any of these tribes.

I believe it will be one of these tribes. Not Red Tails, not Generals, not Red Hawks, not Warriors or Braves.


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What I would like with the Native tribe name is that it would be a good opportunity to do something that should've been done decades ago, and would have likely avoided this mess:

Do more to publicly and consistently honor and support Native Americans.
Have a % of the team's benefits automatically given to support local Native communities.
Have regular cultural events to promote Native American culture.
Have pre game shows and parades held by Natives.

Had this been done earlier, the whole "this team's name is racist" narrative would have been a harder sell.

And frankly, I think a huge organisation that choses to brand Native American like the Redskins do, has a responsibility to listen to, represent, honor and support. And I don't think this franchise lived up to this responsibility.

Maybe now is the time.

(Please keep in mind I say this while thinking the Redskins' name isn't racist, and would have loved for my team to keep its name, but it seems that ship has sailed...)

Jimbo
07-04-2020, 08:49 PM
Why don’t we do a mail in voting

Jimbo
07-04-2020, 09:34 PM
Or maybe we should just let football die like our history kills me to say it but to much BS anymore

SkinzWin
07-04-2020, 10:01 PM
Hello all,

I have lurked here for years, but the current situation has motivated me to join this fine forum. I have bled burgundy & gold since 1971. I am sick about the name change and am trying to come to terms with it.

IMHO the best scenarios are:

1) Washington Warriors: Switch to the 1960s spear logo and tweak the fight song. Most everything remains so it would be palatable. The one problem- and it could be a big one- is that we would still be in the realm of Native Americans with the spear logo

2) Washington Redhawks: Take a cue from Miami University in Ohio. Switch to the late 60s/early 70s "R" logo and tweak the fight song. Emphasize the scripted Rs and avoid too much bird talk. Hassle free as the Native American stuff is jettisoned once and for all.

More unconventional choices:

Washington Braves: I am a stickler for tradition and Braves is the original name. Having one syllable makes the fight song harder to tweak. And we are still in Native American territory.

Washington Redskins: I used to think that maybe Snyder could ditch the current logo and return to the aforementioned "R" logo. Also expunge any other Native American references. Then issue a press release that states the name now refers to the color of the uniforms, nothing more. But I doubt Snyder could pull it off.

Washington Hogs: With the right moves, it could work.

I don’t want a name that is already another franchise name. See the Golden state warriors of the NBA.

I like the Redhawks.

Personally a fan of the Atlanta Braves, but again don’t want to share a team name.

Hogs is a terrible name.

I still say Washington Renegades should be strongly considered and use the Redskins “R” logo.

rocnrik
07-04-2020, 10:28 PM
Washington Tomahawks, Washington Arrows or arrowhead(s), Cherokee, Apache thunder , moccasins .. just some ideas

kct1975
07-04-2020, 10:44 PM
Washington Tomahawks, Washington Arrows or arrowhead(s), Cherokee, Apache thunder , moccasins .. just some ideasHumm...I actually like the Washington Tomahawks or Washington Arrows or even the Washington Arrowheads

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rocnrik
07-04-2020, 10:52 PM
It seems that objects are okay .. it gets tricky when using team names after groups of people .. Even though I like Cherokee and other tribe names it still leaves the door open for controversy...but even as I type this did not Florida state get in trouble for the tomahawk chop move ? It’s going to be tricky and Dan has one shot at getting this right .. keeping the diehards pleased and being political correct .. I hope this turns out good

rocnrik
07-04-2020, 10:58 PM
Washington Redfeathers ?

calia
07-05-2020, 02:19 AM
Humm...I actually like the Washington Tomahawks or Washington Arrows or even the Washington Arrowheads

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Too much like KC.


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FrenchSkin
07-05-2020, 04:15 AM
It seems that objects are okay .. it gets tricky when using team names after groups of people .. Even though I like Cherokee and other tribe names it still leaves the door open for controversy...but even as I type this did not Florida state get in trouble for the tomahawk chop move ? It’s going to be tricky and Dan has one shot at getting this right .. keeping the diehards pleased and being political correct .. I hope this turns out good

I say it depends how it's done.

If Natives and Natives representative are included in the discussion and the choice of the name, and have a say in how they want to be represented and supported, one would say a community would appreciate the legit support of a big organisation having millions of fans.

I think the name change is also a consequence of not living up to the responsibility of representing and supporting the community you're branding.

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