Who is Kirk Cousins?


30gut
12-18-2015, 01:42 PM
I dont give a hell about their numbers.Lol, obviously. And 'not giving a hell about their numbers' is convenient place to stand.

Ill just strait up tell you that if they were both on the redskins rite now that KC would be the starter if it were up to me.Um should I get you some cookies?

punch it in
12-18-2015, 02:00 PM
Lol, obviously. And 'not giving a hell about their numbers' is convenient place to stand.



Um should I get you some cookies?



Cousins has thrown for more yards snd has the better qbr. Its not convenience. Its that I dont need to look at their numbers to know who the better qb is, nor do I put too much stock into stats.
As for the cookies. No. If anybody else offered me cookies I would say No thank you. But when u offer me cookies it just creeps me out for some reason.

over the mountain
12-18-2015, 02:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TvG6IQC.jpg

DYoungJelly
12-18-2015, 03:39 PM
Lol, from this post it appears you struggle with what the words 'exactly' and 'insinuate' mean. But, you don't need me to spin yourself in circles. By all means continue. It amuses me.

Btw, after you get done chasing your tail maybe you could post Fitz vs Kirk this year? Or not, either way makes no difference to me.

Cheers!

Kirk edges Fitz in DYAR and DVOA:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb)

And passer rating:

NFL Stats: by Player Position (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&qualified=true)

With a rushing attack that is 28th in yards per carry:

2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt)

But really, what do you think about not drafting a QB this year?

rocnrik
12-18-2015, 04:38 PM
I am not hating on anybody! Let me clear the air on my post..I would have LOVED IT if RGIII would have continued his fantastic play after his rookie season..however something drastic happened and anybody that knows anything about football witnessed his tremendous fall..I believe it was a combination of many things ..INJURIES,COACHING,His college background not preparing him to be a pocket passer, HIS ATTITUDE..the system..the opposing NFL defense catching up to his game..etc etc..anyways We gave up a ton to draft him and things were looking very bleak..luckily somebody had enough foresight to draft another QB later in that draft ..Kirk came here in the RGIII shadow and did what he was told..he supported RGIII . Now that he has his chance You darn skippy I am on board and pulling for him just like i did RGIII ! he is the best option we have this year and next unless we are willing to trade away the future again for another vet QB to come in here (Brees etc..) would i trade cousins for Brees..uh YES ..but who is gonna do that? I think Cousins right now is the best QB we have available to play for the Redskins ..that is who he is! nothing more nothing less. To the Cousins doubters I have question for you..IF he leaves after this season WHO WILL THE QB BE NEXT YEAR? and how much will we give up to get that QB? here is another question..Between RGIII and Cousins which one do you believe will have the longest and most productive career regardless of the team they play for.

punch it in
12-18-2015, 04:59 PM
Kirk edges Fitz in DYAR and DVOA:



FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb)



And passer rating:



NFL Stats: by Player Position (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&qualified=true)



With a rushing attack that is 28th in yards per carry:



2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt)



But really, what do you think about not drafting a QB this year?


Shhhh. Dont tell 30 gut or he wont offer you cookies.

CRedskinsRule
12-18-2015, 05:53 PM
kirk edges fitz in dyar and dvoa:

football outsiders: Innovative statistics, intelligent analysis | quarterbacks 2015 (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb)

and passer rating:

nfl stats: By player position (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabseq=1&season=2015&seasontype=reg&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticpositioncategory=quarterback&d-447263-s=passing_passer_rating&qualified=true)

with a rushing attack that is 28th in yards per carry:

2015 nfl team rushing stats - national football league - espn (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsperrushattempt)

but really, what do you think about not drafting a qb this year?

That was PERFECT!

CRedskinsRule
12-18-2015, 08:20 PM
Santana Moss' point of view regarding both KC and RGIII

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/12/18/santana-moss-rgiii-needs-a-second-chance-somewhere-else/

on KC

DC Sports Bog
Santana Moss: RGIII needs a second chance somewhere else

Moss also discussed Cousins, including the occasional comparisons to Chad Pennington, another quarterback Moss played with. The receiver said Cousins’s arm might be stronger than Pennington’s, but that Pennington accomplished too much to be compared with a first-year starter.

“But Kirk can be that guy. Kirk can be great,” Moss said. “And like I said years before, I see so much potential in those guys, and it just was sad that those guys both was young and had to be under each other. You can’t learn from nobody. It’s hard to just sit there.”

Moss also he thought Cousins sometimes tried to do too much early in his career to live up to Griffin’s example.

“I could be wrong…but at times [it seemed like] Kirk would say ‘I’m gonna muscle this ball in there because Robert muscled that in there.’ And Robert has that arm, and you’d [think] no, that ain’t Kirk’s style, don’t throw that Kirk. And we would say that in practice to each other. We never said that to him, but we knew the pressure. Kirk was trying to be on that field, so he was going to do things — I’m going to take a chance, even though I know my arm might not be as strong as his, I’m going to take a chance. But if you watch him play his game, he’s the best at playing his game.”

on RGIII
“Griffin can be a quarterback in this league,” Moss said. “Honestly. I think he’s due a second chance somewhere. I can’t sit here and tell you if it’s here, because I feel like sometimes you need to get away. You need to leave [a place] where it just seems like it’s done. But I think he needs a second chance, and I just think he’s got to get in an offense like the first year, and be able to do special things.

pretty interesting piece that should give everybody a slightly different perspective

DYoungJelly
12-18-2015, 09:07 PM
Santana weighs in with more common sense than any writer or talking head who has covered the saga.

I don't think Griffin will be a starting NFL QB for a variety of reasons but he's right, he has to get out of DC and try.

MTK
12-19-2015, 12:07 PM
People still hanging on RGIII's nuts amaze me. He was a hazard to himself, it was quite obvious after that Detroit preseason game that he just wasn't making the transition to being a drop back passer and he was holding back the entire franchise. Making the move to Kirk and showing that draft status was no longer going to mean anything around here was a huge move, both on the field and in the locker room.

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