Who is Kirk Cousins?

DY you are making my point when you admit they played at a high level during their SB runs.

Even with a defense and a run game the QB still has to do more then merely be propped up to have a SB run.
It seemed like you were trying to diminish their play in their respective SB runs and equating their success with Kirks ability to have success in the same situation. My point is Kirk has not yet shown the ability to have the success those QBs had in their respective SB runs.

Those QBs current struggles makes my point. The QB has to hold up their end for the whole thing to work. Barring Trent Dilfer a SB contending team has more then a propped up QB.

My point is Kirk has not yet shown the ability to have the success those QBs had in their respective SB runs.

You're right, he hasn't had a #1 defense or a #1 rushing game.

If Kap was a good QB he wouldn't be cut at the end of the year.

You're right, he hasn't had a #1 defense or a #1 rushing game.Lol, Wilson rushed for 849 of those rush yards and only threw 7 ints...is Kirk going to do that?

Lol, Wilson rushed for 849 of those rush yards and only threw 7 ints...is Kirk going to do that?

If Kirk had Wilson's running game and Wilson's defense, he would be better than 5-5.

You win dude.

If you're gonna flat out deny Russ has anything to do with the team's rushing success its hard to have a real discussion about this. No point in even getting into his playmaking, ypa, mediocre receiving corps and spotty OL. Sure, Kirk is as good as Russell Wilson. And because 2 'propped up QBs' made SB runs then we should re-up Kirk right now?

You gotta be kidding when you say we'd be in first place if we had a better QB. The entire team got their asses kicked in our losses, except for the Atlanta game which we wouldn't even have been in at the end if Kirk hadn't driven the team to a score with 24 seconds left on the clock.

Barkley, Yates, and Sanchez? Again, you must be kidding. None of them is fit to wash Kirk's dirty uniform. Landry is unproven. Bortles is no better than Kirk. If it's so easy to pick a starting caliber QB, why was Wilson picked in the 3rd round?

You may not think so, but we've got bigger problems at other positions.

I do know we have bigger problems. Didn't say we don't. But the division is so crappy that with 1 or 2 non disaster games from KC we would be in first. Heck, beat the Giants in the first game, and we are in first.

You win dude.

If you're gonna flat out deny Russ has anything to do with the team's rushing success its hard to have a real discussion about this. No point in even getting into his playmaking, ypa, mediocre receiving corps and spotty OL. Sure, Kirk is as good as Russell Wilson. And because 2 'propped up QBs' made SB runs then we should re-up Kirk right now?

That isn't close to what I said. Cheers.

Kap and Wilson contributed to their teams' success in the same way that RGIII made the 2012 run possible.

The former QBs had the benefit of top defenses as well and went further in my opinion as a result. Also, RGIII's injuries cut his run short compared to the other two. It has taken the league a little more time to catch up to the other two.

I believe that other QBs could have been inserted in either Kap or Wilson's slot during those years and had the same or similar success. (Case in point Alex Smith, who I would consider average.)

I believe that their ability to run, the 4 pro bowlers on their Olines and the two probowl RBs masked a lot of their deficiencies.

Not to say they didn't play well because they did, but many QBs would have success in that situation.

They are now being exposed for what they really are.

The reasons we should sign Kirk have nothing to do with them other than he has been in the polar opposite situation to those guys.

He doesn't have a running game or pro-bowl running backs or a top 3 defense to keep him from playing from behind.

The FO and GM have been able to see what Kirk really is without the benefit of those crutches propping him up. He has been average to above average and has had flashes of brilliance in the worst of situations.

You gotta be kidding when you say we'd be in first place if we had a better QB. The entire team got their asses kicked in our losses, except for the Atlanta game which we wouldn't even have been in at the end if Kirk hadn't driven the team to a score with 24 seconds left on the clock.



Barkley, Yates, and Sanchez? Again, you must be kidding. None of them is fit to wash Kirk's dirty uniform. Landry is unproven. Bortles is no better than Kirk. If it's so easy to pick a starting caliber QB, why was Wilson picked in the 3rd round?



You may not think so, but we've got bigger problems at other positions.


Right on. If not for Cousins this game on Sunday would mean dick because we would be about 1-9.
We would be in first place if we had half a run defense has such a better jingle to it.

Agian i agree 10000% with you!!

We have lots of issues right now. Our QB is not one of them for once.