Brody81
11-09-2015, 02:54 PM
I think its funny that if u dont have a cannon for an arm you are cast into the "game manager" position. That is the dumbest name ever. Kirk is a smart qb who has the ability to throw 30-40 times and gain 300 yards if need be. His bad interception, rush to judgement throws have certainly subsided and that was really his only knock. He is able to avoid pressure, read defenses, and make the throw. He has improved every week of the season in his first real season at the helm. I cannot imagine how many times Griff would have had to pick himself up and brush off the dirt over these first 8 games. As soon as this guy gets the run game, a solid group of wr's, and a defense on his team he is going to be a damn good QB. We still have a shot at the division and it is so nice we are playing meaningful games in November, but I cannot wait until we get a few more pieces on this team and really challenge the league next year. Namely, a MLB, DB, S, WR, C / right side help, and an edge rusher.
I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.
NoCalHail
11-09-2015, 03:03 PM
I wouldn't call yesterday a "good game"
NoCalHail
11-09-2015, 03:06 PM
I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.
I think too often "strong arm" is only looked at by how far a QB can heave a ball downfield, when it is really so much more. Making throws with zip on the ball, hitting WR's in stride. Those crossing patterns in the medium range where the WR is running towards sideline and the QB has to zip it into tight window.
All of that stuff is part of what makes up a strong arm. You watch Brady play in that Pats offense, and they throw as many short passes as any other offense, but Brady delivers the ball with zip where it needs to be in order for YAC to occur on almost every single catch, where as Cousins often times is throwing behind the WR, low to the ground, or in a spot where the ball catcher has to stop to catch it, therefore gets tackled right away. Is it due to lack of arm strength or still working on timing in the scheme? Could be some of both.
punch it in
11-09-2015, 03:56 PM
I wouldn't call yesterday a "good game"
Bullshit. 8 drops. Cousins was on the money.
punch it in
11-09-2015, 03:57 PM
I don't understand the "not having a strong arm" he just overthrew DJ again Sunday on a deep ball down the sideline. His arm is plenty strong.
I dont think his arm is john beck like im just catering to the masses. My point was people like to tag him as the next game managing alex smith.
30gut
11-09-2015, 04:20 PM
His bad interception, rush to judgement throws have certainly subsided and that was really his only knock.-
^^Punch It
You make some good points. But I have to disagree with the portion above. I don't think his knack for interceptions has subsided nor was it his only knock and his other knocks were/are accuracy and ability to handle adversity.
But I would give the kid credit for handling adversity and being more resilient this year.
Still has a ways to go with consistent accuracy and interceptions.
NoCalHail
11-09-2015, 04:21 PM
Bullshit. 8 drops. Cousins was on the money.
Dude. Settle down. I didn't say he was bad yesterday either. It's hard to really make much of a judgement out yesterday's game to be honest. A couple of those throws go for big yards if they are caught, others were short yardage would-be completions that probably don't keep drives alive anyway. It was a mixed bag. He also under throw Jackson early in the game when he was wide open behind the secondary.
Brody81
11-09-2015, 04:22 PM
I dont think his arm is john beck like im just catering to the masses. My point was people like to tag him as the next game managing alex smith.
I just used your quote to make my comment. I know you don't think he has a weak arm.. This whole argument is getting retarded. Some guys will never get onboard with Kirk because he wasn't a high draft pick. They can't get excited about a 4th round pick. The good thing is Scott will be making this decision, and I trust it will be the right one. I would love to know what he thinks of Kirk. I would guess he is very pleased with his progression so far.
punch it in
11-09-2015, 04:23 PM
His bad interception, rush to judgement throws have certainly subsided and that was really his only knock.-
^^Punch It
You make some good points. But I have to disagree with the portion above. I don't think his knack for interceptions has subsided and his other knocks were/are accuracy and ability to handle adversity.
But I would give the kid credit for handling adversity and being more resilient this year.
Still has a ways to go with consistent accuracy and interceptions.
Well accuracy and the int's obviously go hand in hand. He certainly has looked better the last couple starts in that department. Could signal a maturation or maybe he just got lucky? Time will tell. I will say with certainty that unlike 8 weeks ago a QB is not exactly an area of need anymore. Thank God.
punch it in
11-09-2015, 04:26 PM
Dude. Settle down. I didn't say he was bad yesterday either. It's hard to really make much of a judgement out yesterday's game to be honest. A couple of those throws go for big yards if they are caught, others were short yardage would-be completions that probably don't keep drives alive anyway. It was a mixed bag. He also under throw Jackson early in the game when he was wide open behind the secondary.
You said "not a good game". I disagree, and to me that would be a bad game. Not good = bad. Lol. If the drops dont occur it is a really good game.
Edit: chico i just saw ur comments. Its not make believe that 8 drops affected his completions percentage or that the carrier drop alone cost him 40 yards. It is certainly not make believe that the garcon non catch resulted in his lone INT. You can choose to not read between the lines, or see the forest thru the trees or any other of the overused metaphors but KC passed the eye test with flying colors in Foxboro yesterday.