Who is Kirk Cousins?

Kirk has also had enough of this .....
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How easy do you think it is as a second year qb with one start under ur belt to come off the bench and look good on a shit team like the 2013 Redskins?
He has made some real strides this year and was missing his number one wr, and his go to guy Reed for a while. He has zero run game behind him.

What strides has he made? I guess you can say for a developmental prospect inconsistency is expected. Yes, he's gaining valuable experience this season. But Cousins is a one step forward, two steps back kind of player.

I am not sure what there currently is to "get" about Cousins. Are some people way too harsh on him? Of course, but at the same time some of his supporters seem overly convinced he is destined for greatness based on what, I have no idea.

So far he has been middle of the road or perhaps a little less when grading against his peers. I don't think people pointing this out don't "get it" I don't think seeing him go in either direction from here would be a huge surprise either.

Nobody posted in this thread that Kirk is destined for greatness. You used that exaggeration in an attempt to strengthen your own argument. Kirk's supporters here, myself included, have been saying that we think he can become a good NFL starter but not an elite QB. That's no knock on Kirk because there are only a few elite QB's. The idea is that we'll be able to win with a good but not great QB once Scot McCloughan builds a solid team around him.

What round do you start looking for a QB?

Personally I think we can win with him but the team around him has to be better. I'd go the route of building up the team and maybe look at the 5th or 6th round.

If Turdk Cousins was a scratch off ticket, what would he be? I'd say a $2 dollar win

I assume you typed his first name on purpose.

Whatever you think of his performance, Kirk Cousins has been a model citizen for the Redskins, and doesn't deserve your sophomoric attempt at humor. It's offensive and doesn't become you.

I don't intend any offense, but I disagree with the premise of the question.

With superior talent evaluators, which most here agree we have now, we should always take the best player available.

So the answer would be whatever round a QB is the best player available.

You said it perfectly.

This team is weak all up and down the roster. We've got a few good players, but not a single superstar, and not nearly enough depth.

We simply need to continue the overhaul. We need better middle linebacking, more pass rush, lots of help in the secondary, a superstar WR would be nice if we could get our hands on one, we need upgrades everywhere.

D Hall should not be a starting CB in this league anymore, for example. Goldson is OK but winning defenses often have better players at that position. The defensive line hasn't been good despite being one of the deeper positions we have.

Not to mention, there's an element to this that could be on the coaches. Why aren't we run blocking better with Scherff in there this year? Did Lauvao mean that much? Long has had several years in this league and has been with this staff, why isn't he more impactful by now?

You said it perfectly.

This team is weak all up and down the roster. We've got a few good players, but not a single superstar, and not nearly enough depth.

We simply need to continue the overhaul. We need better middle linebacking, more pass rush, lots of help in the secondary, a superstar WR would be nice if we could get our hands on one, we need upgrades everywhere.

D Hall should not be a starting CB in this league anymore, for example. Goldson is OK but winning defenses often have better players at that position. The defensive line hasn't been good despite being one of the deeper positions we have.

Not to mention, there's an element to this that could be on the coaches. Why aren't we run blocking better with Scherff in there this year? Did Lauvao mean that much? Long has had several years in this league and has been with this staff, why isn't he more impactful by now?

On the other hand, perhaps our greatest team weakness last year was pass blocking, which is arguably the best part of the team this year. I believe I saw a statistic recently that the Skins are allowing fewer sacks per drop-back than any team in the league. That's remarkable. Did we have to trade run-blocking for pass-blocking? And if you had to choose between the two, which would it be?

You said it perfectly.

This team is weak all up and down the roster. We've got a few good players, but not a single superstar, and not nearly enough depth.

We simply need to continue the overhaul. We need better middle linebacking, more pass rush, lots of help in the secondary, a superstar WR would be nice if we could get our hands on one, we need upgrades everywhere.

D Hall should not be a starting CB in this league anymore, for example. Goldson is OK but winning defenses often have better players at that position. The defensive line hasn't been good despite being one of the deeper positions we have.

Not to mention, there's an element to this that could be on the coaches. Why aren't we run blocking better with Scherff in there this year? Did Lauvao mean that much? Long has had several years in this league and has been with this staff, why isn't he more impactful by now?
Isn't Long a 2nd year player but essentially a rookie since he was still recovering from a knee injury his last year in college?

Either way, I agree overall with the premise that the roster as a whole needs an overhaul. It's going to be at least a 2 year process to purge some older/expensive players (bye bye this offseason to Hatcher, Garcon, Jackson, Riley to name a few) and bring in more via the draft and smart free agency.

I think there will be a number of QB on the market this offseason (Cutler, Stafford, Brees, Kap, RG3 to name a few) via trade or release but we shouldn't be in the market for any of them because we're not a QB away from being a contender.

How does that relate to Cousins? IMO, he's not the long term answer, he is a good backup to below average starter. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick...and that's not necessarily a bad thing. He will bounce around the league for 10+ years, win some games, maybe catch lightning in a bottle with the right team around him and have some success but ultimately be fools gold if you think he's a franchise QB.

BUT, for where we are and are going, he's the best roster option right now for 2016 and maybe 2017 while we look for our long term QB. I think while this is a weak draft class at QB, if there's value in the 2nd or 3rd round on a guy Scot thinks can be the long term solution.

I assume you typed his first name on purpose.

Whatever you think of his performance, Kirk Cousins has been a model citizen for the Redskins, and doesn't deserve your sophomoric attempt at humor. It's offensive and doesn't become you.

Are you attempting to polish him?

Are you attempting humor? Gotta say, not your strong suit.

Just stop it.