Who is Kirk Cousins?


DYoungJelly
10-27-2015, 08:40 AM
My preseason take on Cousins:
He is a classic Gruden QB. Technically sound but overwhelmingly mediocre. He will look great when things are perfect. When the play call matches the defense, when the primary read is open, when he gets great protection and most importantly, when he is playing with the lead. When any of those break down however, so does he...quickly.

Ask him to perform at a high level over a period of time and you will be disappointed. He is too careless with the ball, too pre-determined with where the ball will go and doesn't rally from adversity well.

If he starts all 16 games, he will probably put up good numbers on paper.. 3200 or so yards, 5 or 6 300 yard games, probably 18-24 TD with 14-18 INT.. The reality however will probably result in a 3-5 win season and fans hoping 'that he can put it all together with a full offseason of being the starter'.

Ultimately Cousins is fools gold.

At the midway point I can't say my mind has changed much. I have seen growth in recovering from the big mistake but he still makes too many that he needs to recover from. Some point to the fact he's led three game winning or tying drives but his play also contributed to the need for those drives. Let's not forget he's looked bad vs 3 of the 4 good defenses we've played (NYG, NYJ, MIA) and coming into yesterday was averaging about 16.5 PPG which ain't good.

He clearly needs to be the QB for the remainder of the year. McCoy is no good and Gruden bailed on Griffin long ago. End of the day however, our 2016 starter isn't on our roster and Cousins will be a backup/fringe starter somewhere else.

We rank 27th in yards per rush counting two dominant rushing games against Miami and St Louis:

2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt)

How many QBs in the league would be doing better against those teams with that kind of run game (Granted he had a really bad game against the Giants, it happens)?

Not counting the 1st two games we have to be averaging 2.5 yards a carry?

rocnrik
10-27-2015, 08:48 AM
They are calling out Luck in Indy so nothing surprises me ..Maybe the Colts will listen to there fans and cut luck or we can get him for a 4th round pick. Rogers would get negative reviews in redskin land. never mind the other 52 players its always the QB that needs to go.

punch it in
10-27-2015, 09:02 AM
Gotta let the season play out and look at the whole body of work. It will change our opinions week to week. Thats the nature of the sport. Rite now qb is not as high on the list of needs as it was last week. Hopefully by the end of the year its not on the list at all.

Chico23231
10-27-2015, 09:29 AM
Crow is going to be a very consistent food source around here i can already tell..... not surprised

if we go to the Pats land and Cousins leads us to victory...ill eat a crow

punch it in
10-27-2015, 09:30 AM
if we go to the Pats land and Cousins leads us to victory...ill eat a crow


If he leads us to victory against the pats ur eating an entire crow family. Even their crow dog.

Paintrain
10-27-2015, 11:12 AM
We rank 27th in yards per rush counting two dominant rushing games against Miami and St Louis:

2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/yardsPerRushAttempt)

How many QBs in the league would be doing better against those teams with that kind of run game (Granted he had a really bad game against the Giants, it happens)?

Not counting the 1st two games we have to be averaging 2.5 yards a carry?
Honestly none of that is relevant in my assessment of Cousins. As I said, he's done slightly better than I thought he would but at the same time, he's mediocre.

If you want to look at stats, the only one that matters is points per game, specifically by the offense (taking out defensive/special teams scores). So far this year it's been 10, 24, 14, 23, 19, 13 & 31 or 19 points per game. That would be 30th in the league. Not good enough.

I haven't been a prisoner of the moment week to week with Cousins. He's had one great game (TB), one really good game (STL), two ok games (PHL & MIA) and three stinkers (ATL before the game tying drive, NYG & NYJ). How that is anything other than mediocre is confusing to me.

He's shown 2 things that I think we already knew; that he can move the offense when conditions are right and that he turns the ball over too much. Neither of those things have changed, for better or worse.

But again, that said, he should be the guy for all 16 this year, don't pull him for McCoy and Griffin likely will never suit up again. Ride it out and figure out what to do for 2016 and beyond.

Meks
10-27-2015, 12:43 PM
if we go to the Pats land and Cousins leads us to victory...ill eat a crow

I just hope we compete next game, not like sundays 1st half we will be in real trouble... and... we need someone to play Gronk .. or somethin somehow against him

JoeRedskin
10-27-2015, 02:40 PM
I just hope we compete next game, not like sundays 1st half we will be in real trouble... and... we need someone to play Gronk .. or somethin somehow against him

Back in the way back day, when one coach was asked how he planned to stop Bronko Nagurski, he shrugged: "With a shotgun as he's leaving the locker room."

Daring to be politically incorrect, I think that's about the only way we stop Gronk.

One of my favorite Nagurski'isms:
"Bronko Nagurski took a handoff, blasted through the opposition, crossed the goal line, and ran clear through the end zone and into a brick wall. 'That last guy hit me awfully hard,' he admitted later."

punch it in
10-27-2015, 03:32 PM
Honestly none of that is relevant in my assessment of Cousins. As I said, he's done slightly better than I thought he would but at the same time, he's mediocre.



If you want to look at stats, the only one that matters is points per game, specifically by the offense (taking out defensive/special teams scores). So far this year it's been 10, 24, 14, 23, 19, 13 & 31 or 19 points per game. That would be 30th in the league. Not good enough.



I haven't been a prisoner of the moment week to week with Cousins. He's had one great game (TB), one really good game (STL), two ok games (PHL & MIA) and three stinkers (ATL before the game tying drive, NYG & NYJ). How that is anything other than mediocre is confusing to me.



He's shown 2 things that I think we already knew; that he can move the offense when conditions are right and that he turns the ball over too much. Neither of those things have changed, for better or worse.



But again, that said, he should be the guy for all 16 this year, don't pull him for McCoy and Griffin likely will never suit up again. Ride it out and figure out what to do for 2016 and beyond.


I agree ppg at 30 is bad. Out of curiosity did u account for other teams st and d ppg being taken out of the equation too?
Also mediocre to me for basically a rookie qb(in games played) is fine imo.
Edit : total points we are 18, and there isnt much drop off from number 10-18.

DYoungJelly
10-27-2015, 05:30 PM
Honestly none of that is relevant in my assessment of Cousins. As I said, he's done slightly better than I thought he would but at the same time, he's mediocre.

If you want to look at stats, the only one that matters is points per game, specifically by the offense (taking out defensive/special teams scores). So far this year it's been 10, 24, 14, 23, 19, 13 & 31 or 19 points per game. That would be 30th in the league. Not good enough.

I haven't been a prisoner of the moment week to week with Cousins. He's had one great game (TB), one really good game (STL), two ok games (PHL & MIA) and three stinkers (ATL before the game tying drive, NYG & NYJ). How that is anything other than mediocre is confusing to me.

He's shown 2 things that I think we already knew; that he can move the offense when conditions are right and that he turns the ball over too much. Neither of those things have changed, for better or worse.

But again, that said, he should be the guy for all 16 this year, don't pull him for McCoy and Griffin likely will never suit up again. Ride it out and figure out what to do for 2016 and beyond.

I understand what you're saying.

Where does he rank 1 to 32?

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